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Entitled to Universal Credit?

Ok bit of a weird one here.
If, you were to be entitled to universal credit should you calculate on basis of yearly wage vs monthly?
Say you have a set wage and then 1 sometimes 2 wage top ups that will 100% happen monthly, on some months only 1 on others 2.
So heres complicated bit.. if i enter details of monthly uc with only 1

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  • sofsofsof
    sofsofsof Posts: 168 Forumite
    Stupid phone sorry..

    *With only 1 top up i get a small entitlement monthly.. however if i enter the yearly wage overal with some months at 1 top up some at 2 i get a 0 entitlement overal..

    Does this mean in essence i am not entitled as my earnings would be higher then entitlement allows for 6 months of the year? And on them 6 months i get extra id have to in essence at end of year pay back entitlement i wasnt allowed in first place?
  • calcotti
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    Your UC entitlement is working out for each monthly assessment period based on the amount of money you have received in that period. If what you receive varies your UC amount will vary also. Your assessment period start and end date is determined by your claim start date.if you are paid monthly it is best to avoid claimingjust before your normal pay day as this increases the chance of you getting a double earnings payment within a future assessment period.

    In the situation you describe it sounds as if you would be entitled some months and not others. After each nilpaymentyouwould have to make a rapid reclaim viayouronlinejournal to keep the claim going.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • sofsofsof
    sofsofsof Posts: 168 Forumite
    Ok i think i get you basically if anything at all id be eligable for £112 a year, when calculating with only 1 monthly top up but for 5 months i get 2 monthly top ups.. so overal when i put yearly salary in it says 0.
    My question is that £16 a month that i am apparently entitled to for 7 months of the year wouldnt that be taken back off me eventually at year end when they are looking at overal salary and benefit overpayment?
  • calcotti
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    UC is a monthly benefit, there is no end of year review (unlike tax credits). Your monthly entitlement in your ‘low’ months would only be affected if your earnings in your ‘high’ months was substantially over your UC entitlement.

    I would question however whether it is worth your time to manage a UC claim if you are only going to get a monthly payment of £16 seven times in the year - but obviously that’s for you to decide.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • tomtom256
    tomtom256 Posts: 2,256 Forumite
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    No, its calculated on a monthly basis and not yearly like tax credits.


    Any income earned in the assessment period is treated as income in that period.


    If you get two payments in one month then you will be nil award for that month only and then re-awarded when you only receive one payment a month.
  • sofsofsof
    sofsofsof Posts: 168 Forumite
    So in essence they would say i was overpaid on them £16 months because my 2 top up wages 5x a year are and definately are way above limit?
  • tomtom256
    tomtom256 Posts: 2,256 Forumite
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    its not a yearly benefit its a monthly one.


    Ignore how tax credits is calculated, UC is calculated and paid monthly, not yearly but monthly.
  • calcotti
    calcotti Posts: 15,696 Forumite
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    sofsofsof wrote: »
    So in essence they would say i was overpaid on them £16 months because my 2 top up wages 5x a year are and definately are way above limit?

    It depends what you mean by way above the limit. The calculation of surplus earnings is very complex but there is currently a disregard of £2500 per month (to be reduced to £300 in 2020).
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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