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Housing Association and the fence saga!

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  • TheTalkingDead
    TheTalkingDead Posts: 229 Forumite
    edited 2 January 2019 at 4:51PM
    sal_III wrote: »
    I admit I speed read your OP, so might be missing/asking the obvious, but why didn't YOU call the HA if it's bothering you that much and affecting your mobility, but relied on various neighbours to do so instead?
    In ignorance, I suppose it was in hand as it was an obvious defect from storm damage to a nice new fence because I had informed flats of the damage at the time it happened and I thought the flats had it taken care of it and they were awaiting a repair. I had no idea it would turn into this.
  • da_rule
    da_rule Posts: 3,618 Forumite
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    saajan_12 wrote: »
    TLDR: OP lives in a HA property with a fence on either side of a shared access lane. A storm damaged the fence and the HA bodged a temporary solution which fell down again. The HA are now demanding £500 to fix it stating "its a rechargeable item because she broke it intentionally to get a new fence" and later that "its not a boundary fence so it's not their responsibility to repair it" so the tenants would cover the £670 costs.

    The broken fence is restricting access to OP's garden and OP wants a fence for privacy. The original tenancy agreement makes the HA responsible for all dividing and boundary fencing for shared access provided damages are reported. The estates manager and neighbours seem unwilling to help.

    If this is correct (I cannot see that the Op has actually confirmed what advice/information they want), then they could potentially just replace the fence with a wire fence and still be providing a boundary fence.
  • TheTalkingDead
    TheTalkingDead Posts: 229 Forumite
    edited 2 January 2019 at 6:30PM
    da_rule wrote: »
    If this is correct (I cannot see that the Op has actually confirmed what advice/information they want), then they could potentially just replace the fence with a wire fence and still be providing a boundary fence.
    Please read post 9.


    They cannot replace the fence with a wire one, due to privacy. I said WHQS
    in first post I managed to get the fence with this:


    WHQS guidance 7.2 page 17. 2(o) Is the rear garden easy to maintain, reasonably private, safe and suitable for young children to play in (Primary)?
    The rear garden must be easy to maintain. This should be assessed in relation to the intended occupants and will consider issues such as: poor design space constraints steep topography.

    The rear garden must be reasonably private. For example: landlords must ensure gardens have proper/secure boundaries. Secured By Design guidance advises that easy access to the back and sides of the dwelling can be prevented by the provision of locked gates. The use of post and wire fences, low level shrubs or walls is not considered suitable. Trellis topping also makes climbing difficult and will add security.

    THE WELSH HOUSING QUALITY STANDARD
    7.2
    The rear garden must be safe and suitable for young children to play in. This also includes allowing supervision from the dwelling. Issues that may be considered in relation to this element are: boundaries should be suitable to prevent children leaving the garden and should not encourage climbing if the garden is on an incline, the landlord must ensure that the retaining walls are structurally stable and have an appropriate guard rail/balustrade ensure pathways are even and unobstructed
    Landlords will have to assess each garden individually and where possible undertake improvement works despite constraints.


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  • unforeseen
    unforeseen Posts: 7,383 Forumite
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    Unless you have missed something out then it appears to meet the WHQS requirements. Your fence is still standing albeit with a bit of the flat's fencing against it Why nobody thought to move it to clear the lane is beyond me though. It the flats don't want their fence replaced then its up to them but your garden appears to have a fence that meets requirements.
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,635 Ambassador
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    I have not insulted anyone.
    Who on here do I ask for Paid advice so I can just get that advice? and how much does it cost?

    You appear to have the wrong idea of how this forum works. There is no paid service available. The forum is made up of individuals who spend some of their time asking and answering questions and generally nattering away online.

    To emphasise the point, I would be very wary if someone private messages you on here offering to give you paid advice. MSE has no way of verifying anyone's qualifications.
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,635 Ambassador
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    You may want to look at the Garden Law forum, no connection to MSE but it does profess to have experts in this area.

    https://www.gardenlaw.co.uk/phpBB2/index.php
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
  • babyblade41
    babyblade41 Posts: 3,962 Forumite
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    I suppose if you want paid advice probably best instructing a solicitor , but not sure if a solicitor is relevant here,

    I'm not sure what you are needing but then I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer and have a bit of a job unraveling it all
  • Norman_Castle
    Norman_Castle Posts: 11,871 Forumite
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    edited 3 January 2019 at 10:50AM
    I have now gathered there are some who are TLDR (Too Lazy Didn't Read).
    TLDR, too long winded so didn't read.

    Contact the landlord and explain the neighbours fence has fallen across your access and ask them to remove it. Suggest they ask whoever fitted it should repair it as it has failed in such a short time.
  • Norman_Castle
    Norman_Castle Posts: 11,871 Forumite
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    I have also had a response from the HA this morning, but if feel from the nagtivity of unhelpful posters here that the privilege of this information will remain with me.
    Damn the nagativity of those unhelpful posters. I will have to go through life not knowing the intricacies of this fence repair. Why is life so cruel?
  • a.turner
    a.turner Posts: 655 Forumite
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    silvercar wrote: »
    You appear to have the wrong idea of how this forum works. There is no paid service available. The forum is made up of individuals who spend some of their time asking and answering questions and generally nattering away online.

    To emphasise the point, I would be very wary if someone private messages you on here offering to give you paid advice. MSE has no way of verifying anyone's qualifications.

    He knows how it's works it's not his first rodeo.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5779696
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