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BigBouncyBall

eh??

whats the link between a mouse driver and IP settings?

v. strange...remind me to stay away from Ubuntu for a while then

i do think, however, that the ideas behind Ubuntu are great - a community driven OS i hope it sorts itself out and takes off. It can only help to topple microsoft!

isofa

Quaint1 wrote: »

Toasterman

Could you possibly point me to where you found out how to do that please? I've had a Mac for a while (only an old one, but I'm having great fun with it) and it's set up to access the internet via it's Airport card and my wireless router, but I can't for the life of me work out how to get it to see the two PC's and a laptop I also have connected and vice versa!
Au Res.,
Paul (holding off getting Leopard for the moment...)

And if you want to add shares on the Mac so you can see them from the PC download Sharepoints, it's perfect.

To see the your standard shares (home folder, desktop etc) just type in your Macs IP address into a windows explorer window (make sure the correct sharing is active in the Network system preferences first on the Mac.)

toasterman

wolfman wrote: »

True, but I could tell you to click a load of places, or install something with the same effect. The command line isn't perfect, but it is very powerful. That's why it's still around despite GUI's being about.

I dunno - i still say GUIs are easier to see what you're doing.

One thing I would be intrigued to know - Linux has a lot of command line stuff still, and Linux'ers seem to like it.
It's also case-sensitive on file names. With that in mind, and using the command line a lot, why do you lot name your software wP_3aLon-1-3_2.3-5.6-..etc..etc..etc..
I've never seen such complicated and long winded filenames where <name1.5a> would do.
It reminds me of the time I was with some computer engineers discussing what to call the new (and only) Exchange server. I suggested "exchange". I was laughed at and told I should learn to do it properly. It eventually became msexchsrvr01 or something awkward.
I'm not enough of a geek for my line of work.

wolfman wrote: »

Woah, it may have just been that model of laptop, and I did say "generally". I've not seen a laptop yet where the mouse doesn't work. What model was it?

I definitely struggle to see how the mouse effected DHCP. Especially as static support via something typical like NetworkManager is actually harder to get working.

Wireless support isn't the best with Linux, most will work (you may need to run through a tutorial to do so), some even work out of the box better than in Windows (thank you Netgear).

It was a HP 510 I think. It's not actually linked as straight forward as that. The mousepad doesn't work til you recompile the kernel or something (an external usb mouse works fine). When you recompile it the way it was suggested, the wireless adapter doesn't work. The resulting fix for that seemed to stop dhcp working properly.
I only read about it - decided against actually trying it when the mouse didn't work straight away.

wolfman wrote: »

Yeah, Linux can be funny about things such as widescreen displays, but again that's getting better. The latest release of Ubuntu for example works ok once you install the appropriate graphics card drivers (if needed).

Well it was a bog standard 17" crt screen. It worked but I had to edit a file somewhere with some settings in hz for my monitor. I then ran some command line or other, and (following the instructions), I was advised to restart it after doing this. When I did, after i entered my username and password, the resolution was wrong or something and I couldn't use the machine. At the time it was my only machine, so I just went back to using windows.

wolfman wrote: »

I've found Vista to be quite quick at booting. Not much slower than XP in fact. My pc is quite powerful though so boots virtually anything quickly. It shuts down ok too for me. I tend to strip out a lot though, and cut down the auto-starts etc...

But "not much slower than XP" on newer hardware, and more ram, seems like a poor compromise just for a curvier desktop. I don't like Vista. Ironically its for the opposite reason to why I don't get along with Linux. Linux is too hard, but Vista holds your hand and stops you doing anything potentially dangerous.

wolfman wrote: »

I use VirtualBox in Linux for running Windows XP and Vista for any Visual Studio work I need to do etc... Runs just fine. Not great getting the sound to work though. And it's not better than actually being in Windows. But it means I get to stay in Linux and not faff around with dual booting.

On the point of sound - that is too complicated in linux. On windows, if I open winamp and audition and a game, i can play sound from all of them at once. On Linux, I just get some error saying the soundcard is in use. I did persist with that, installed jack, tried to use it - but all I got was clippy sound at best, and more errors saying the jack server wasn't started, at worst.

toasterman

BigBouncyBall wrote: »

eh??

whats the link between a mouse driver and IP settings?

v. strange...remind me to stay away from Ubuntu for a while then

i do think, however, that the ideas behind Ubuntu are great - a community driven OS i hope it sorts itself out and takes off. It can only help to topple microsoft!

I will add that the mouse was a one-off. Although I've only tried Linux on one laptop. The problem with Linux on laptops is that with a desktop - you can pick the components, and choose ones that work on Linux. With a laptop, you don't really get that opportunity unless you're willing to pay silly money for a custom build one. If Ubuntu doesn't like your laptop's wireless card - there's not a lot you can do about it, except use a different distribution or buy an addon wireless card.
On desktops, in the last 2-3 years I don't think I ever had something not work totally - except for external usb wifi adapters.

The Linux "community" isn't going to topple anything, while there's 150,000,000 different versions. A lot of versions are very much a closed community, and you can't be a united front when you're all pulling in different directions.
Ubuntu is a bit different in that it's actively encouraging people from Windows to switch and it's popular enough you can search for a problem and actually find answers.

Linux still doesn't accommodate the lazy user like myself though who can't be bothered to learn commands and research what vertical and horizontal hz their monitor supports.

wolfman

Ah yeah I hate some of the naming too, awful and quite messy.

And yeah Linux is not for the lazy user. You have to be prepared to work at it and learn it.

While there are endless amounts of distro's, they often share the same kernel and other libraries. Ubuntu comes from Debian for example. So while there are different flavours (which gives choice) they're at the core working towards the same thing.