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2017 VCS now received 'Claim Form'
BillyBobLD
Posts: 3 Newbie
Good evening,
Firstly, thank you for all the guidance so far, FAQs etc.
In December 2017, I parked my sister's car (I was the regular driver) at my local sports club where we have 'parking permits' These are for parking on a road which is publicly accessible, with a barely used museum at the other end and with signs on the opposing side of the road. These are the usual, vague signs. I need to double check but as far as I am aware there is no
As it is a large club, there were no permits this one morning. 45 minutes later I was told one of the 'Wastes of Space' men was putting a note on my car. I walked out, with a 'permit' to which the man looked at, said he "had to complete the form", but that I should appeal and it "will be accepted". He then made notes I had returned with a permit, showed me this, and submitted it on his 'phone'. He then handed me the usual black and yellow "ATTENTION DOCUMENT ENCLOSED, THIS IS NOT A PARKING CHARGE NOTICE". This was at no point affixed to my car. Being naive, upon returning to the country after Christmas 2017 and receiving 2 of these letters I appealed this. The main points being that nothing was affixed to the card, which they responded "We advise that the card left on the vehicle is only a courtesy to inform/alert drivers that they may have contravened the Terms & Conditions of parking on the car park and to prevent a recurrence of a parking contravention." Regardless, the location is certainly not a car park.
Upon looking at the online info when requested, there is a photo of the car at 10:49 and then more with the notice in the background at 10:02. The 'CN' is documented at 11:05, this is not true as he was taking photos... Is this time difference an issue with regards to a grace period?
I have had several letters since this and now, a year later, a Claim form for £185. I have followed the instruction on here and submitted an AoS today, being the first day I have received this (I've been away). I think I have 16 days from today of the 28 remaining.
I have photos of everything related to this, but only 1 of the letters sent.
Since this, outside of business hours (9-5 M-F) we no longer have to display such a permit.
If somebody help me build my defence I would really appreciate it! And advise on the next step etc.
Many thanks!
Firstly, thank you for all the guidance so far, FAQs etc.
In December 2017, I parked my sister's car (I was the regular driver) at my local sports club where we have 'parking permits' These are for parking on a road which is publicly accessible, with a barely used museum at the other end and with signs on the opposing side of the road. These are the usual, vague signs. I need to double check but as far as I am aware there is no
As it is a large club, there were no permits this one morning. 45 minutes later I was told one of the 'Wastes of Space' men was putting a note on my car. I walked out, with a 'permit' to which the man looked at, said he "had to complete the form", but that I should appeal and it "will be accepted". He then made notes I had returned with a permit, showed me this, and submitted it on his 'phone'. He then handed me the usual black and yellow "ATTENTION DOCUMENT ENCLOSED, THIS IS NOT A PARKING CHARGE NOTICE". This was at no point affixed to my car. Being naive, upon returning to the country after Christmas 2017 and receiving 2 of these letters I appealed this. The main points being that nothing was affixed to the card, which they responded "We advise that the card left on the vehicle is only a courtesy to inform/alert drivers that they may have contravened the Terms & Conditions of parking on the car park and to prevent a recurrence of a parking contravention." Regardless, the location is certainly not a car park.
Upon looking at the online info when requested, there is a photo of the car at 10:49 and then more with the notice in the background at 10:02. The 'CN' is documented at 11:05, this is not true as he was taking photos... Is this time difference an issue with regards to a grace period?
I have had several letters since this and now, a year later, a Claim form for £185. I have followed the instruction on here and submitted an AoS today, being the first day I have received this (I've been away). I think I have 16 days from today of the 28 remaining.
I have photos of everything related to this, but only 1 of the letters sent.
Since this, outside of business hours (9-5 M-F) we no longer have to display such a permit.
If somebody help me build my defence I would really appreciate it! And advise on the next step etc.
Many thanks!
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What is the Issue Date on your Claim Form?
Was this Claim Form issued by the County Court Business Centre in Northampton or somewhere else?0 -
Hi, thanks for the reply.
The issue date is 29/11/2018, and yes it was from 'Money Claims Online, COUNTY COURT BUSINESS CENTRE, NORTHAMPTON'0 -
With a Claim Issue Date of 29th November, and having done the Acknowledgement of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Wednesday 2nd January 2019 to file your Defence.
That's three weeks away. Loads of time to produce a perfect Defence, but don't leave it to the very last minute.
When you are happy with the content, your Defence should be filed via email as suggested here:-
Print your Defence.
- Sign it and date it.
- Scan the signed document back in and save it as a pdf.
- Send that pdf as an email attachment to CCBCAQ@Justice.gov.uk
- Just put the claim number and the word Defence in the email title, and in the body of the email something like 'Please find my Defence attached'.
- Log into MCOL after a few days to see if the Claim is marked "defended". If not chase the CCBC until it is.
- Do not be surprised to receive a copy of the Claimant's Directions Questionnaire, they are just trying to keep you under pressure.
- Wait for your DQ from the CCBC, or download one from the internet, and then re-read post #2 of [URL="https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread[/URL] to find out exactly what to do with it.
0 - Sign it and date it.
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see the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread post #2 and read the example defences, then draft your own defence and post it below0
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Ok great, thanks KeithP for the advice. I will do exactly that!
Saints1321 & Redx, thanks for the replies.
Is the best defence be disputing the 'contract' which they are claiming has been breached? I will get on with creating my defence tomorrow. The whole scam is infuriating and energy-sapping!!0 -
BillyBobLD wrote: »Ok great, thanks KeithP for the advice. I will do exactly that!
Saints1321 & Redx, thanks for the replies.
Just a friendly warning for you. Sometimes a person comes on this forum whose agenda is not what you think.
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