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Private parking appeals up 7% - but fewer are successful - MSE News

More motorists are contesting private parking tickets but those who are successful has dropped by more than 10%, according to figures published by the UK's largest private parking appeals service...
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    RedxRedx Forumite
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    edited 11 December 2018 at 10:51AM
    not surprised if people are using the official MSE article on how to appeal that drops people in it

    MSE admins need to alter their advice or remove it altogether until it is up to 2018/2019 standards because at the moment it is awful AND out of date too


    maybe we need a fairer system with only one AOS sanctioned by the Government with a Code Of Practice endorsed by the uk government ? oh wait :_


    https://services.parliament.uk/bills/2017-19/parkingcodeofpractice.html
  • peter_the_piperpeter_the_piper Forumite
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    Ah yes, POPLA, that bastion of independence.
    I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.
  • The_DeepThe_Deep Forumite
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    What about the other lot, I would love to see their statistics.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • StaffsSWStaffsSW Forumite
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    The bigger point to raise I think is why so many are uncontested by the parking companies.

    Why should people have the stress and hassle of having to jump through all of the appeals hoops, only for the PPC to call it off? They know they are scamming motorists, but just use the appeals process, and to a degree the court process, as tools of their extortion.

    This is why when dealing with my fleet, I put in a strong appeal in the first instance, and do not engage in the POPLA/IAS process - if they are convinced they are in the right, then I let them know they can discuss it with me in front of a judge.

    Strangely, very few take up the offer.

    (Your situation may be very different to mine)
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  • StaffsSWStaffsSW Forumite
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    The_Deep wrote: »
    What about the other lot, I would love to see their statistics.

    https://theipc.info/uploads/kSJm3KJvMlvkjkiTJS54q8hr7R25474zp7tDy4Tuo18/IAS%20Annual%20Report%20v1%20Nov2018-V1.pdf

    18,009 received - 25% won by the motorist, but 19% of that was due to the PPC not contesting.
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  • twhitehousescattwhitehousescat Forumite
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    StaffsSW wrote: »
    https://theipc.info/uploads/kSJm3KJvMlvkjkiTJS54q8hr7R25474zp7tDy4Tuo18/IAS%20Annual%20Report%20v1%20Nov2018-V1.pdf

    18,009 received - 25% won by the motorist, but 19% of that was due to the PPC not contesting.

    or 19% lost paperwork in the post /spam box
  • beamerguybeamerguy Forumite
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    Given the increasing ignorance of POPLA assessors, it's no surprise

    Roll on a new government system that is separate from the scammers
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    StaffsSW wrote: »
    The bigger point to raise I think is why so many are uncontested by the parking companies.

    Why should people have the stress and hassle of having to jump through all of the appeals hoops, only for the PPC to call it off? They know they are scamming motorists, but just use the appeals process, and to a degree the court process, as tools of their extortion.
    Money basically; uncontested cases are free and there's no need to disclose any awkward documents like landowner's contract, (if there is one!).

    As I've said before on other threads, POPLA codes should be paid for upfront by the PPC; it will concentrate their minds when dealing with the initial appeal from the RK/Driver.
  • The_DeepThe_Deep Forumite
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    Surely it is up to the judges to crack down on the spurious claims. If they started punishing PPCs by awarding punitive damages when the PPC is loses, they would be less eager to go to court.

    I took a scammer to court, (not parking), for blatant dishonesty, and ended up over £300 out of pocket. The judge seemed to think that issuing false instruments and claiming for expenses not incurred was not unreasonable.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • UmkomaasUmkomaas Forumite
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    A quote from the report by Uncle Bryn:
    If the role of the IAS is to adjudicate on the lawfulness of a parking charge and the veracity of evidence, mitigation is all about customer service and public relations for a parking operator. In the words of the Roman writer Publilius Syrus: “A good reputation is more valuable than money.”
    Espoused by absolutely no one in the private parking game.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
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