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Yellow jacket freedom fighters spreading to London

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  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    lisyloo wrote: »
    Bit hard to see what you are referring to but migrants tend to be economical in their use of housing.
    ...

    I think it depends where you live.

    I recall a report which discussed the small town of Boston. Most of us will know that it has a large migrant worker community.

    The report pointed out that local rents were higher than the wider regional average, despite the average income in Boston being lower than the regional figure.

    When you consider that a semi could be rented out to 15/20 workers, this would seem to make sense. The overall rental income achievable can be higher with more people paying.

    If you're a couple looking to buy in the area, then you are competing with landlords who can derive greater value from these homes.

    I'm a fan of better quality + subsidised public transport. If a place like Boston had excellent transport links, then the burden would be spread out more widely. Unfortunately transport links between some of the towns in South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Lincolnshire are pretty poor.
  • lisyloo wrote: »
    Bit hard to see what you are referring to but migrants tend to be economical in their use of housing.


    Some like in caravans e.g. fruit pickers, fishermen live on ship, hotel workers sometimes live in hotels, builders/plumbers who want to prioritise making money share rooms.


    Yes of course migrants increase demand but the ones coming here to make money/send it home, use the minimm amount of accomodation necessary and aren't going to buy a holiday home and leave it empty.

    They are the sort of people we should stop allowing in on a permanent basis. OK if they are here for 2/3 months, but someone living here earning money and spending so little has very little value to the country.
    What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare
  • Thrugelmir
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    I think it depends where you live.

    Buildings here cannot go up quick enough. Even 3 bed room semis and terrace houses are becoming flats/bed sits. In one area where's here limited car parking (i.e. little off road). The Council have issued 3,500 parking permits for around 2,800 spaces.

    Quality of life is detoriating. General condition of property, litter , fly tipping etc. Westminster is detached from the real world. Interestingly our MP voted for TM's deal.
  • AG47
    AG47 Posts: 1,618 Forumite
    spencer999 wrote: »
    is this the elephant in the room? Yes housing supply is low. But demand skyrocketed with open borders. It's not racism to point it out, it's numbers. They all have to live somewhere. It's economics for year 10.

    Of course there is that theory that the fat cat gubbermint is conspiring against you....

    It's doesn't matter how many people would like to live in a certain property, all that maters is how many people can raise the funds.

    In a refugee camp there is very high demand and very little supply, you'd think property prices would be soaring.....:rotfl::rotfl:
    Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future
  • A woman in central London today was wearing a very smart mustard mac, but it didn't look warm enough for the current cold snap. That's quite rebellious.
    They are an EYESORES!!!!
  • lisyloo
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    A woman in central London today was wearing a very smart mustard mac, but it didn't look warm enough for the current cold snap. That's quite rebellious.


    Brilliant !!
    and the top story on the BBC is about a football player
  • AG47
    AG47 Posts: 1,618 Forumite
    They are even restricting yellow vests in case the public in the uk want a repeat of the 2011 riots but this time French stylieee
    Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future
  • J_Nostin
    J_Nostin Posts: 93 Forumite
    There were quite a few gilets jaunes in Tesco's car park this morning.
    Each of them pushing ............ a long line of empty shopping trolleys in a threatening manner.
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    How effective can civil disobedience be?

    If several thousand well dressed people turned up at one of our major supermarkets; and spent several hours wandering around buying nothing more than a packet of mints; they could cause the business quite a lot of problems in terms of the regular custom.

    But would this not be considered 'freedom fighters', just because they don't behave in the classic way we expect?
  • Herzlos
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    How effective can civil disobedience be?

    If several thousand well dressed people turned up at one of our major supermarkets; and spent several hours wandering around buying nothing more than a packet of mints; they could cause the business quite a lot of problems in terms of the regular custom.

    But would this not be considered 'freedom fighters', just because they don't behave in the classic way we expect?


    I'm not sure that inconveniencing a supermarket would really help anything. You'd probably want to try and do something that'd inconvenience the people that make the decisions.


    I think that's why things like oil refinery blockades, trucks blocking off motorways or swarms of Taxi's clogging up Westminster would be the way to go.
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