BW Legal and Britannia Parking

kernowkid007

Looking for guidance on how to proceed with letter from BW Leagal and Britannia Parking LTD
As the registered keeper, my wife has today received a letter from BWL demanding £160 for an unpaid PCN dating back over 18 months. In the same envelope a letter from Britannia Parking Ltd stating they have passed the unpaid PCN balance to BWLegal. This is first correspondence received from either company. According to the BW Legal letter she has 16 days to make payment in full or respond with reason for not paying, failure to do either and BW Legal will seek instruction from it’s client to take legal proceedings.
Not sure where to go from here, Should I request a SAR from the PPC or wait for possible LBC letter in the future?
Thanks in advance

fisherjim

What you have is a debt collectors letter which can be ignored, however we are seeing a growing trend with these scammers, circumventing the system saving themselves time and money, while also giving their tame debt collecting scumbags a bite of the money tree cherry as well.


Yes send them a SAR as you have no idea whet they are talking about, and complain to the BPA about their dirty tactics.

beamerguy

kernowkid007 wrote: »

Looking for guidance on how to proceed with letter from BW Leagal and Britannia Parking LTD
As the registered keeper, my wife has today received a letter from BWL demanding £160 for an unpaid PCN dating back over 18 months. In the same envelope a letter from Britannia Parking Ltd stating they have passed the unpaid PCN balance to BWLegal. This is first correspondence received from either company. According to the BW Legal letter she has 16 days to make payment in full or respond with reason for not paying, failure to do either and BW Legal will seek instruction from it’s client to take legal proceedings.
Not sure where to go from here, Should I request a SAR from the PPC or wait for possible LBC letter in the future?
Thanks in advance

OH dear, BWLegal are on their rubbish train again
You do not owe £160, it's BWLegal attempting to extort money from you ......

Please don't think that they are real solicitors, they are just money scammers who use the courts as debt collectors and more often than not they fail .

What you have is the normal rubbish from BWLegal.

IGNORE ...... if a real LBC comes your way, they must give you
30 days to respond

Read up about these money scammers
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5672664

Caustic70

Yep request a SAR from Brittania. I did that recently for an old and frankly ridiculous PCN from them for 2 years ago when I suddenly got correspondence from BW Legal. Looks like they have passed a bulk lot of old PCNs to BW legal. I received a letter back with the info requested and also advising they had decided to drop the legal case.....!

kernowkid007

Today I have received the dreaded Letter of Claim from BW Legal.
Can I just clarify my next course of action?
1. Contact the PPC, (Britannia) and request a SAR?
2. Respond to BW Legal disputing the ‘debt’ on the grounds of no evidence provided for me to defend and that SAR has been requested?

Many thanks

Redx

1) YES, you should have done this already 2 weeks ago, to the DPO at BRIT

2) correct, quoting the PaP oct 2017 rules etc

The_Deep

It is the will of Parliament that these scammers be put out of business. Hopefully that will take place in the near future. The Bill has passed through the HOC without hitch, and goes to the Lords soon. In the meantime involve your MP, the poor dears are buckling under the weight of complaints about these scammers. Read this one which I wrote earlier

This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of alleged contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors. Is has been suggested by an MP that some of these companies may have connections to organised crime.

Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, (especially Smart}, and others have already been named and shamed in the House of Commons as have Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each week), hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned. They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

The problem has become so widespread that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers.

Sir Greg Knight's Private Members Bill to curb the excesses, and perhaps close down, some of these companies passed its Third Reading in late November, and, with a fair wind, will become Law next year.

All three readings are available to watch on the internet, (some 6-7 hours), and published in Hansard. MPs have an extremely low opinion of the industry. Many are complaining that they are becoming overwhelmed by complaints from members of the public. Add to their burden, complain in the most robust terms about the scammers.

lapymm18

Hi there,

It would appear that I’m in a similar situation however when I requested my SAR from Britannia they said I had to pay an additional fee of £10 for additional information such as PDR machine records from that day.

I also received a reply from BW legal after emailing them asking that my claim be put on hold whilst gathering my data from Britannia. BW legal said they are unable to do so until they are instructed by Britannia.

Any help from here on out would be much appreciated 😩

nosferatu1001

FOr your data - which would include YOUR VRM on the PDT machines - they CANNOT charge

If you made the mistake of requesting data not relating to you, they are corect in they can ask for a fee

You have to start your own thread. WHat youve jhust done is barge in front of someone waiting to be helpd with HELP ME, HELP ME INSTEAD, IGNORE THE PERSON WHO WAS ALREADY STANDING HERE!!!!!

Its rude
Obviously, its rude

kernowkid007

Well the dreaded day came yesterday, my wife received a County Court Claim form form BW Legal. I intend to submit her AoS later today via MCOL. I assume i'm right in thinking she will then have 28 days from date of issue, (12/02/19) to submitt her defence.

Britannia parking claim my wife's car over stayed the 3 hour free parking by 29 mins. This can be seen on photos from ANPR camera timing in and out.

Now this is where i begin to get a bit worried! The following points are all i can think of to include in her defence, none of which seem to carry much weight:

1. Poor signage, particularly on entry to car park (small sign high up out of driver's line of sight) therefore no form of contract was entered by the driver?

2. Having recently revisited the car park, the signs in the car park now read 4 hours free parking. Photos supplied of signage (following my SAR) show the 3 hours as stated in claim (photos dated 2 months prior to alleged parking contravention)

3. Pre-action protocol was not adhered to as no evidence of claim was supplied with the LBCCC, not allowing me to determine whether or not the claim was legitimate.

4. The car park offers no facility to extend parking time by means of payment, therefore not a single penny was lost in revenue by the land owner nor Parking Company. (The car park serves several restaurants, so wanting to stay more than 3 hours is likely). Obvious why the free parking was extended to 4 hours at some point!

5. The claim no includes costs i believe are not recoverable in County Court Claims
£60 "initial legal costs"
£13 interest charge
£50 legal rep costs

I feel i need to add far more wieght to form any kind of defence and to stand any chance of winning. I have read dozens of posts on here and read through the Newbies sticky.

Any thoughts greatly appreciated

Coupon-mad

Britannia parking claim my wife's car over stayed the 3 hour free parking by 29 mins. This can be seen on photos from ANPR camera timing in and out.

Exactly like all the other overstay ones then...! Nothing new. Nothing difficult.

e.g.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/75467571#Comment_75467571

Is it an old PCN from 2016 when Britannia could not hold a keeper liable? If so then she defends as KEEPER, not saying who parked, and can add in the POFA wording, as seen in any defence you find when you search the forum for:

defence no keeper liability POFA true