Would my Mum be owed pension?

rebs

Dani1987 wrote: »

Mum's sister looking into family trees etc and found the date of birth of my Mum being 1942 and not 1944. Just received her birth certificate from the General Register Office and it confirms 1942 as her birth year.

Did your mother never have a birth certificate before showing her birth year as 1944?

How did your mother claim her state pension? Did she not have to supply a birth certificate for the claim?

It's not a situation where her parents had a daughter that died in infancy in 1942 and they used the same name for your mother or something like that, is it?

molerat

rebs wrote: »

It's not a situation where her parents had a daughter that died in infancy in 1942 and they used the same name for your mother or something like that, is it?

Happened with my great aunts, one born and died 1908 and the other born in 1911, where they were both given the same two first names.

greenglide

Or the date on the register being different to the date on the certificate that she had?

rebs

greenglide wrote: »

Or the date on the register being different to the date on the certificate that she had?

How would one know which was correct in that instance? (just curious, really)

Dorian1958

Does that mean your mum went through school with kids 2 years younger than herself?

PasturesNew

Dorian1958 wrote: »

Does that mean your mum went through school with kids 2 years younger than herself?

It probably means she got to about 20-22 ... lied at some point for what seemed a good reason (get into a pub, date somebody, get a job) ... then had to stick with it. Over time it IS possible to forget.

My mum thought she was born in 1926 and was surprised when she got her pension paperwork through "a year early". When I looked into it she was born in 1925 and her marriage certificate had exactly the correct age on it.... at some point she simply "got confused". I grew up with her saying "same age as the Queen", who was born in 1926. Just a simple mistake.... or she might've knocked a year off when she met dad (b 1932)

xylophone

Does that mean your mum went through school with kids 2 years younger than herself?

I'd doubt it.

The OP's grandmother would have known her child's exact age and when she became eligible to start primary school - the term of the fifth birthday in 1947?

greenglide

How would one know which was correct in that instance?

Logically the register, the official book, ought to be right. All other copies, including the copy most have at home, are copies of an entry in the register.


What happens if the entries in the register are out of sequence by two years is a mystery but there is probably a process for this.


DWP have process for changes to date of birth, changes of NINO, duplicate NINO etc. Most involve deleting everything held and clerically reinserting everything.


Some of the changes can be huge - changes of SPa as pension ages are equalised, moving from SP to nSP if the 6th April 2016 is crossed and many others.

badmemory

Unlike now NI Nos were not issued at birth or even at earliest working age. So if she had started work at 16 the DWP may have had her age as 14. It was not possible to join things up as they do now. This would have been a particular problem for women as many then didn't work (in the normal workplace anyway) & many things in wartime when she was born did go missing.


I do hope she receives the 20% (well 20.8% for full 2 years) & the increased future pension for deferring for the 2 years. The lump sum option may well, if offered, not be her best option, unless she has high value/interest debts.

kidmugsy

badmemory wrote: »

The lump sum option may well, if offered, not be her best option, unless she has high value/interest debts.

Agreed: unless she has urgent need of a lump sum, or has objective reason to expect a short life, the extra annual pension would be likely to be better value.