Issued a PCN despite having an informal agreement with the land owners

HSL888

I live opposite a development that recently decided to enforce the parking on the (private/unadopted) road just in front of my house, where I in turn am legally responsible for (and own?) my half of the road.

They are using CPM to issue the PCNs and despite my having a permit, was issued a PCN with a picture which at the angle it was taken, my permit was not displayed. It is possible the permit could have slipped down further in front.

They have indicated that they cannot get CPM to cancel it. Given that CPM are contracted out surely they can ultimately make that decision?

Half_way

who owns the unadopted road?

HSL888

it is my understanding that each house owns the part of the road directly in front of them.

Le_Kirk

What does it show on the title deeds for the house, rather than "your understanding" as, if it come to small claims court, the judge would look at legality.

HSL888

On the official copy of title plan from the Land Registry, on my side only my house (and none of the road) is highlighted in red.

How would one determine who the official owner of the other side of the road that I parked on is? I called the council once to get an abandoned van removed and they said they couldn't do anything as it was not a public road.

Coupon-mad

They have indicated that they cannot get CPM to cancel it.

Who is 'they'? The Managing Agents acting for the site landowner?

HSL888

I emailed the management company for the development to request they have the PCN cancelled as I believe it was incorrectly issued. It seems the residents have nothing better to do during the day and are highly incentivised by the possibility of a £10 reward per PCN paid.

In response to another poster who commented, I managed to dig up the road register online and it states that part of the road is private and part public.

In this picture imgur . com/mpsn4gK (just remove the spaces) I've indicated in green where my car was parked. The blue line is a wall/fence where there are signs every 10 metres or so. The road register states that from Road B up to the house indicated by the red marker is public, with the rest being private.

Despite my having a parking permit that apparently was not clearly visible (I'll accept blame for that) I'm wondering if this suggests they are incorrectly labelling part of the road private?

Half_way

Whoever employed CPM will be jointly liable for the actions of their agents.


Where did the permits come into this? were you using the road before the permits were introduced?


If the road is unadopted then, my understanding is the properties on that road will be jointly responsible for the upkeep.
somewhere there must be some paperwork indicating who is responsible?

HSL888

I live just opposite and occasionally used their side of the road to park.

The development decided to put up the signs and hire CPM to prevent non-residents from using the space as a car park for the nearby station.

It was informally agreed that I along with the other houses on my side of the road would get parking permits for visitors/contractors and the like

Half_way

Who owns the road?
Is this a new development that started after you moved in?

HSL888

the online road register from thheh council states that different parts of the road are private/public.

In this picture imgur . com/mpsn4gK (just remove the spaces) I've indicated in green where my car was parked. The blue line is a wall/fence where there are signs every 10 metres or so. The road register states that from Road B up to the house indicated by the red marker is public, with the rest being private.

the developement was there when I moved in but both the row of houses I live in and the development across the road were built at the same time