CP Plus Result

Davie1325

Apologies if i haven't posted in the right place ... just wanted to share the news that i had my CP plus parking fine cancelled today.

I used the standard template in the newbies thread.

First letter - 10/10 - ignored.
Reminder - 29/10- ignored.
Reminder - 15/11 - appeal submitted 30 Nov 18.

Decision today... no further action amd ticket cancelled :j:j:j:j:j:j:j

The_Deep

They have wasted your time, now waste theirs, complain to your MP.

It is the will of Parliament that these scammers be put out of business. Hopefully that will take place in the near future. In the meantime involve your MP, the poor dears are buckling under the weight of complaints about these scammers. Read this one which I wrote earlier

This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of alleged contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors. Is has been suggested by an MP that some of these companies may have connections to organised crime.

Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, (especially Smart}, and others have already been named and shamed in the House of Commons as have Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each week), hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned. They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

The problem has become so widespread that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers.

Sir Greg Knight's Private Members Bill to curb the excesses, and perhaps close down, some of these companies passed its Third Reading in late November, and, with a fair wind, will become Law next year.

All three readings are available to watch on the internet, (some 6-7 hours), and published in Hansard. MPs have an extremely low opinion of the industry. Many are complaining that they are becoming overwhelmed by complaints from members of the public. Add to their burden, complain in the most robust terms about the scammers.

Coupon-mad

Yay!

Good to hear CP Plus are still cancelling when they see the NEWBIES thread template, even when submitted late!

mdc111

Davie1325 wrote: »

Apologies if i haven't posted in the right place ... just wanted to share the news that i had my CP plus parking fine cancelled today.

I used the standard template in the newbies thread.

First letter - 10/10 - ignored.
Reminder - 29/10- ignored.
Reminder - 15/11 - appeal submitted 30 Nov 18.

Decision today... no further action amd ticket cancelled :j:j:j:j:j:j:j

Thanks for posting, I need to do the same today, could I just check if this is the template you used please:-

Re PCN number:

I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a formal complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner and to my MP.

There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. Since your PCN is a vague template, I require ALL photos taken and an explanation of the allegation and your evidence, i.e.:

- If the allegation concerns a PDT machine, the data supplied in response to this appeal must include the record of payments made - showing partial VRNs - and an explanation of the reason for the PCN, because your Notice does not explain it.

- If the allegation involves an alleged overstay of minutes, your evidence must include the actual grace period agreed by the landowner. If you fail to evidence the actual grace period that applies at this site or suggest that only one period applies, this will be disregarded as an attempt to mislead. In the absence of evidence, it will be reasonably taken to be a minimum of twenty minutes (ten on arrival and ten after parking time) in accordance with the official BPA article by Kelvin Reynolds about 'observation periods' on arrival being additional and separate to a 'grace period' at the end.

- in all cases, you must include a close up actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date.

Formal note:
Should you later pursue this charge by way of litigation, note that service of any legal documents by email is expressly disallowed and you are not entitled to assume that the data in this dispute/appeal remains the current address for service in the future.

Yours faithfully,

Many thanks

Fruitcake

mdc111 wrote: »

Thanks for posting, I need to do the same today, could I just check if this is the template you used please:-

Re PCN number:

I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a formal complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner and to my MP.

There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. Since your PCN is a vague template, I require ALL photos taken and an explanation of the allegation and your evidence, i.e.:

- If the allegation concerns a PDT machine, the data supplied in response to this appeal must include the record of payments made - showing partial VRNs - and an explanation of the reason for the PCN, because your Notice does not explain it.

- If the allegation involves an alleged overstay of minutes, your evidence must include the actual grace period agreed by the landowner. If you fail to evidence the actual grace period that applies at this site or suggest that only one period applies, this will be disregarded as an attempt to mislead. In the absence of evidence, it will be reasonably taken to be a minimum of twenty minutes (ten on arrival and ten after parking time) in accordance with the official BPA article by Kelvin Reynolds about 'observation periods' on arrival being additional and separate to a 'grace period' at the end.

- in all cases, you must include a close up actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date.

Formal note:
Should you later pursue this charge by way of litigation, note that service of any legal documents by email is expressly disallowed and you are not entitled to assume that the data in this dispute/appeal remains the current address for service in the future.

Yours faithfully,

Many thanks

There is only one appeal template in post 1 of the NEWBIES. If that is where you got it from then it is the correct one.
If you need further help, please start your own thread, not hijack someone else's.

mdc111

Not sure what my query has to do with you Fruitcake? It is on topic as I am liaising with the OP who appears to have been in exactly the same situation as me, I have therefore not hijacked anything. It seems to me that it’s you doing the hijacking of this thread by using it to satisfy your trolling needs! As stated, my query was to the OP so no need for you to engage with me any further thanks 👍🏻

KeithP

Hahaha. I do hope Davie1325 does help you mdc111.

Good luck.

Umkomaas

mdc111 wrote: »

Not sure what my query has to do with you Fruitcake? It is on topic as I am liaising with the OP who appears to have been in exactly the same situation as me, I have therefore not hijacked anything. It seems to me that it’s you doing the hijacking of this thread by using it to satisfy your trolling needs! As stated, my query was to the OP so no need for you to engage with me any further thanks ����

I take it the OP will take you right the way through this and you won't need the assistance of a highly qualified and knowledgeable regular. He hasn't been anywhere near the forum or this thread for almost a month.

Might be better trying to do it via PM away from the public forum, to avoid any other regular trying to help you.

Good luck.

twhitehousescat

mdc111 wrote: »

Not sure what my query has to do with you Fruitcake? It is on topic as I am liaising with the OP who appears to have been in exactly the same situation as me, I have therefore not hijacked anything. It seems to me that it’s you doing the hijacking of this thread by using it to satisfy your trolling needs! As stated, my query was to the OP so no need for you to engage with me any further thanks 👍🏻

the OP has made ONE and only one post back on 03/12 , and there is very little chance he or her will read your HIJACK

as with the poster above comments , please start your own thread

Umkomaas

as with the poster above comments , please start your own thread

If there's any risk of a nasty 'what's it got to do with you?' snipe from mdc111, I doubt many regulars will expose themselves in order to try to help.

Potentially costly.

mdc111

Thanks for the invaluable advice Umkomaas, no need for your concern though - as stated previously, my query was to the OP, I’ll therefore take your advice and PM instead 👍🏻