Hit & Run

casseus

Car_54 wrote: »

Not necessarily.


As quoted variously above, the police can demand information (under s172) from "the person keeping the vehicle". The act makes clear that that "person" may be a body corporate.


It seems entirely reasonable for the police to proceed on the basis that "the person keeping" any vehicle liveried as ABC Widgets is in fact ABC Widgets, and to request the driver's details from that body corporate. A court might disagree, but I doubt it.

Thank you couldn't have put it a better way!.

Deanston

Car_54 wrote: »

Not necessarily.


As quoted variously above, the police can demand information (under s172) from "the person keeping the vehicle". The act makes clear that that "person" may be a body corporate.


It seems entirely reasonable for the police to proceed on the basis that "the person keeping" any vehicle liveried as ABC Widgets is in fact ABC Widgets, and to request the driver's details from that body corporate. A court might disagree, but I doubt it.

What vehicle?

atrixblue.-MFR-.

Deanston wrote: »

What vehicle?

for the purposes of the S172 served on a corporate body ANY VEHICLE
related to the keeper at time of offence. its also not served on a "vehicle" as you keep saying its to be served on the body corporate, to furnish the Drivers details.

Deanston

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

for the purposes of the S172 served on a corporate body ANY VEHICLE
related to the keeper at time of offence. its also not served on a "vehicle" as you keep saying its to be served on the body corporate, to furnish the Drivers details.

Give us an example of that, we're talking about an unknown vehicle.

casseus

Deanston wrote: »

Give us an example of that, we're talking about an unknown vehicle.

Were talking about an unknown driver, not vehicle, we know the vehicle is part of a corporate body fleet of vehicles belonging to a business the S172 is instructing to find the DRIVER to ANY of their Fleet vehicles in relation to this offence.

Deanston

casseus wrote: »

Were talking about an unknown driver, not vehicle, we know the vehicle is part of a corporate body fleet of vehicles belonging to a business the S172 is instructing to find the DRIVER to ANY of their Fleet vehicles in relation to this offence.

Driver of what vehicle?

atrixblue.-MFR-.

compingqueenjrm wrote: »

Hi all,

I'm wondering if anybody can offer any advice.

My car was written off on Monday in a hit and run incident. My husband parked up on the street (legally) at 08:30 and went on his way to work. On his return he found the car very badly damaged and totally undriveable. Unfortunately the perpetrator was not kind enough to leave their details.

We contacted the insurer and the police on the spot. The insurer sent a recovery truck to remove the vehicle that evening and notified us that the vehicle would be written off. We heard from the police but only to ask if we had a reg - which we didn't.

We took it upon ourselves to contact local companies to see if anybody had seen anything or had caught the incident on CCTV. We weren't having much luck but had been told by multiple businesses that it was likely caused by a HGV going to the cement works at the end of said road. Apparently this had happened before and there is often near misses due to the road being relatively narrow.

Anyway, the insurance company costs were mounting and it looks like the car will only be valued at £1000 and we'll have to pay the excess (£310), pay off the insurance (£150) and we'd just filled it up with fuel (£40). As well as my husband's premiums going up in the future and being listed as a fault claim. Being 7 months pregnant and with Christmas approaching it literally could not have come at a worse time.

Roll on today and one of the local companies came back saying they had indeed caught the incident of CCTV - just. They are further down the road but explained upon zooming you can see a HGV turn into the road and my vehicle being shunted. Unfortunately the CCTV is too blurry to make out a plate but the vehicle type and company logo is evident. As suspected it's the same company that I'd been told about which has it's cement yard at the end of the road.

I contacted the police and insurance company to let them know about the CCTV and the local company said the insurance company had been in touch and got this almost instantly.

My question is, can the insurance company pursue a claim from the HGV's company in question without a reg plate? As this is a clearly branded vehicle going in the direction of the company base?

I have been in contact with the company in question on Monday informing them of my plight and asked for their assistance in reviewing CCTV and vehicle damage logs. I also went back to them this afternoon to tell them that we had CCTV that shows their vehicle and gave the time of the incident. I therefore asked for their assistance finding the vehicle/driver. They've said they will help, but who knows.

I feel like I've had a small victory in the fact we have some kind of CCTV evidence. But am concerned without a reg we might still be stuck.

Anybody have any experience/advice on this kind of thing?

Many thanks!

Deanston wrote: »

Driver of what vehicle?

The S172 will be asking for the driver of the vehicle connected to the company from the details mentioned in bold. :wall: If you don't get it after this time there's no hope.

Deanston

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

The S172 will be asking for the driver of the vehicle connected to the company from the details mentioned in bold. :wall: If you don't get it after this time there's no hope.

Which vehicle they may have more than one?

compingqueenjrm

UPDATE.

Hi all,

Luckily the cement works have admitted that the hit & run was one of their drivers and have passed on their insurance details.

Once they knew we had CCTV they were pretty forthcoming with the information. If they hadn't been made aware on the day, once I'd given them the time of the incident it should have been quite easy for them to check the CCTV entering their yard as the vehicle will have entered 30 seconds to 1 minute after the incident.

Thanks all :beer:

Stoke

It's obviously a shame about your vehicle, but if I was you, I'd consider just banging it on ebay spares repair. You'll get some money back from the company, saves a claim on your policy as well. You won't make much on the car.... but better than nothing.