Wish I had checked here first, I appealed stating I was the 'driver'. UKCPS, am I screwed.

mrteabag59

Hi all,


Just spent a good 30 minutes confidently reading through the NEWBIES threat and felt better. However, as you can see from the title I may have messed up with my appeal.


I know some of these go on for ages so I'll keep this amazingly brief, parked at a friends residence (managed by UKCPS) for a night out. He was late and advised I park in his bay and he park in visitor one when he arrived. Clearly a misinformed mistake. I appealed hoping to for an understanding, what an idiot.
Almost immediately rejected by what I have learned on this forum to be an automated response.


Now comes the dilemma, I admitted being the driver, they have IPC and BPA logos on their penalty issue. I have until December 27th to pay the £60 or £100.


I obviously want to just ignore it, screw them mentality, but will ill-informed appeal come back to bite me and ultimately damage credit ratings...etc.?


Thanks in advance

waamo

They are IPC members. Having appealed to UKPFC any further appeal to the IPC would be futile in any case.

I would ignore debt collectors letters and only respond to a genuine LBC.

mrteabag59

Thanks for the reply, what is a genuine LBC?

By this stage I imagine bad credit rating?

waamo

Your credit rating cannot be affected unless you go to court, lose and then fail to pay within the specified time period. Them writing to you will have no bearing on your credit rating or worthiness whatsoever.

An LBC is a letter before claim. It will contain forms to fill out. Standard debt collectors letters don't usually contain forms.

mrteabag59

Thanks, so if an LBC turns up it’s likely at that stage to be going to court...etc?

It’s ridiculous how what I thought to be a fairly watertight appeal, was refused in less than 24hrs. Then a large bill was due.

I wonder if anyone has not paid, and lived to regret it. As almost all advice on these forums states ignore the fine... trying to be honest and declaring myself the driver has likely weakened my stance. Hopefully not enough to get to the stage where I wish I’d just paid the fine

waamo

An LBC means they are considering court. It isn't a certainty but it is a serious consideration.

Responding robustly sometimes prevents a court claim being made. Responding to debt collectors is utterly pointless.

Umkomaas

UKCPS are far less inclined to issue court proceedings these days.

Just be alert to a LBC or court papers (come back on this thread if you get either). UKCPS have 6 years to issue.

Half_way

If it was His space with his permission, then why is a permit required? you had permission, and authority to park

mrteabag59

Thank you for all your replies and advice.


It's his bay in on an UKCPS managed residential estate.


We were planning on attending an event together, however he got held up, told me to change from the visitor bay (as it would require a token) and just park in his numbered bay. He would then park in the visitor himself when he arrived home and display his visitor parking token. No additional vehicles on site and no attempt to cheat or con. But clearly no grey area on the rules that visitors park in a specific bay and display the 'token' regardless of circumstance.


So I carefully appealed stating this, I was the driver, intentions of parking in visitor bay, friend was running late advised his interpretation of the parking rules (i.e. not using visitor bay without token) and was typically ignored (in the words of Goodfellas F--- You Pay Me).


I just don't want a negative mark or actual court summons.


But again thanks for the info guys.

Redx

you wont get a court summons, this isnt a criminal offence

if a court case is paid for by UKCPS, then you will receive an MCOL from Northampton (a court claim in the civil court)

you have no control over this if you fail to pay their invoice, wo what you want or dont want is irrelevant unless you settle their invoice in full

UKCPS have 6 years to issue an MCOL

if you lose, you pay the judgment within one month to avoid a CCJ, its the CCJ that would trash your credit rating so you pay it IN FULL, promptly, to avoid the negative mark

this UKCPS invoice and any court claim hinges on the terms in the lease that your friend has, so check those terms and see what it says (if anything at all) about parking

Le_Kirk

mrteabag59 wrote: »

As almost all advice on these forums states ignore the fine... trying to be honest and declaring myself the driver has likely weakened my stance.

a) it's not a fine, it's an invoice
b) can you point out where on this forum you have read advice to ignore the invoice. You might have read advice to IGNORE debt collector letters but that's all.