Is/ca + uc esa

whambam

I was under the impression that if you applied for ESA in a UC area you would have to apply for UC and that income support and carers allowance would be integrated into the new system. So, IS and CA would stop and the new UC ESA would kick in. Today, I was told to close down my UC claim as we claim IS + CA these will be transitioned but not yet?

Can you claim UC as well as existing IS and CA?

[Deleted User]

Who told you what exacty?

Ineededaname

Can you clarify?

What benefits are you currently claiming?

What benefits do you want to claim?

Carers allowance can still be claimed in a UC area and would not stop with a UC claim - they simply deduct it from your UC.

TELLIT01

Not all IS claims have been transferred to UC yet. That's probably where the confusion came in when one person said you have to claim UC and then you were told you will remain on IS & CA for the time being. You can't claim UC and IS at the same time.

whambam

_shel wrote: »

Who told you what exacty?

The adviser at the job centre told me i shouldn't be claiming UC as person is on IS and CA. We are in a UC area? She said IS and CA would become UC in the future we do not know when.

Ineededaname wrote: »

Can you clarify?

What benefits are you currently claiming?

What benefits do you want to claim?

Carers allowance can still be claimed in a UC area and would not stop with a UC claim - they simply deduct it from your UC.

IS and CA with carer premium

ESA IB

TELLIT01 wrote: »

Not all IS claims have been transferred to UC yet. That's probably where the confusion came in when one person said you have to claim UC and then you were told you will remain on IS & CA for the time being. You can't claim UC and IS at the same time.

Has anyone people in the country transferred all 6 benefits or so into 1 yet? Are they doing it in stages over the next 5 years?

poppy12345

whambam wrote: »

The adviser at the job centre told me i shouldn't be claiming UC as person is on IS and CA. We are in a UC area? She said IS and CA would become UC in the future we do not know when.



IS and CA with carer premium

ESA IB

Anyone else totally confused by this?



Whambam, please start again and tell us exactly which benefits you are claiming? You can't claim IS and UC together.

Ineededaname

whambam wrote: »

The adviser at the job centre told me i shouldn't be claiming UC as person is on IS and CA. We are in a UC area? She said IS and CA would become UC in the future we do not know when

Correct

IS and CA with carer premium

ESA IB

You could never claim IS and ESA together. One of the key eligiblity criteria for IS was that the person is not eligible for JSA or ESA.

If the person wanted to claim ESA IB in a UC area then yes, they would need to claim UC. What's the logic behind this though? Presumably this is where other people advising you have got confused as well. They aren't additional benefits, you get one or the other.

The only reason I could see is that this person is now seriously ill and you believe would qualify for LCWRA. However on UC a LCWRA award would remove the Carers element, as a person cannot get both. LCWRA is more money, but this is banking on being placed in the support group after a long process.

The advice to stay on IS + CA seems correct to me, unless it is an almost certainty this person would be placed in the support group. If they are this ill it does raise the question of how they are maintaing their full time caring responsiblities for another person.

Has anyone people in the country transferred all 6 benefits or so into 1 yet? Are they doing it in stages over the next 5 years?

No one can claim all 6 benefits. That's never been possible. A large part of your post seems to be confusion on this. Living amount benefits are seperate, you can get one only.

They are supposed to be starting the transfer next year but no plans of how, which benefits, which dates etc have been revealed yet.

whambam

I've received a letter today by DWP to say that our claim for UC will NOT affect income support we get? Logging into my UC account my claim as been closed as I choose to stay on the benefits we are getting already.

So, I guess UC is not rolled out for those on existing benefits only for new applications?

So, does that mean those on existing benefits have to reapply and meet the new UC eligibility criteria in the future or will it be automatic process conversion?

Another thing in Scotland the benefit system is due to change next year with the new Scottish social security system we already have received a carer's credit automatically from the agency with more plans next year. How will that effect UC in Scotland?

Ineededaname

If you went ahead with a UC claim then your income support would stop.

Transfers from other benefits start next year but they've released no details. If it's anything like the UC transfers onto the new system then you will have to reapply - but we just don't know yet.