We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Holiday hours/entitlement

Hi all,

I work a 40 hour week and my hours are:

Monday-Wednesday = 0700-1630 and an unpaid lunch of 15mins
Thursday = 0700-1530 unpaid lunch 15mins
Friday = 0700-1100

But the way my employer works out holiday is 40÷5 which is 8.

So to have monday and a tuesday off I have to make up 2 and a half hours to make the 40hours a week.

In my contract it says under Holiday entitlement it says a days holiday, nothing about it being 8. Also gives the same working hours as stated.

Is this legal?
«1

Comments

  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Third Anniversary Name Dropper
    If you book Friday off, do the remainder hours carry over?
  • kwame41
    kwame41 Posts: 168 Forumite
    edited 22 November 2018 at 3:34PM
    You are entitled to four weeks (plus bank holidays) paid holiday per year by law.

    Your employer should honour this and pay you the same per holiday week /day as if you had worked. You do not have to make up any 'shortfall' to qualify.

    You might find this link of use:-

    https://www.gov.uk/holiday-entitlement-rights
  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Third Anniversary Name Dropper
    kwame41 wrote: »
    You are entitled to four weeks (plus bank holidays) paid holiday per year by law.

    Your employer should honour this and pay you the same per holiday week /day as if you had worked. You do not have to make up any 'shortfall' to qualify.

    You might find this link of use:-

    https://www.gov.uk/holiday-entitlement-rights



    No. You are entitled to 5.6 weeks per year, by law. Bank holidays have no special bearing.
  • If I was to have a friday off it would be classed as 8 hours, not the 4 hours I actually work.

    I've bought this up with my employer and they said its because on a friday they are saying we are working 8 hours when we are only working 4, so we'd be entitled to the half a days holiday.

    8 hours = half a days holiday or something.
  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Third Anniversary Name Dropper
    to be honest it's very confusing.


    to keep it simple, you're entitled to 224 hours of holiday a year. If you do not get this, then they are breaking the law.
  • nicechap
    nicechap Posts: 2,852 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Lbigsby wrote: »
    If I was to have a friday off it would be classed as 8 hours, not the 4 hours I actually work.

    I've bought this up with my employer and they said its because on a friday they are saying we are working 8 hours when we are only working 4, so we'd be entitled to the half a days holiday.

    8 hours = half a days holiday or something.

    So if you book a Friday off, do you get 4 hours extra pay that week as you've done 4 hours more?
    Originally Posted by shortcrust
    "Contact the Ministry of Fairness....If sufficient evidence of unfairness is discovered you’ll get an apology, a permanent contract with backdated benefits, a ‘Let’s Make it Fair!’ tshirt and mug, and those guilty of unfairness will be sent on a Fairness Awareness course."
  • Im very confused as well and I bloody work there! I just dont understand how they are doing it.

    Yes we get paid the extra if we do book a friday off.

    If I want Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday off I'd have to work 4 hours on the friday.

    Actually hours done on those 4 days is 36 hours
    Hours charged as Holiday would be 32 hours.
  • JCS1
    JCS1 Posts: 5,347 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Thought the working time directive states 20min break, so the 15 minute lunch break is incorrect.
  • JCS1 wrote: »
    Thought the working time directive states 20min break, so the 15 minute lunch break is incorrect.


    My (initial) thoughts exactly!

    I never understand why HR departments - or even the people working out holidays - don't work holidays out in hours instead of days for people who work anything but the same number of hours, five days a week. I suppose it's to try to stop people booking holiday of less than a day (stupid in itself....)
    Ex board guide. Signature now changed (if you know, you know).
  • Thanks for being up the 20min thing. In total we get 2x15 min breaks - 1 paid, 1 unpaid. If that changes anything?

    What about the holiday hours, is what they are doing wrong?
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.4K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 604K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.4K Life & Family
  • 261.5K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.