Civil Enforcement scary letter

Mashlette

Hi I hope somebody can point us in the right direction. Last week the keeper received a letter of notification regarding keeper liability, of an outstanding debt of £100.
They haven’t received anything prior to this notification even though it states is been 30 days since parking charge notice has been issued. Also it states that the independent appeal service is no longer available at this stage.
The regestered keeper didnt hear anything since the alleged offence early October
the Civil Enforcement letter arrived saying The keeper got to pay £100 within 14 days or they will start debt recovery process . . It’s addressed to the registered keeper, dated 12th November , but they didnt recieve this till the 17th Nov.

The driver was there for 19 mins, . As it does take the keeper to the appeal section, my question is which of the templates , if any should Be used in this case? And if not a template , any suggestions on how to word the situation.
The main thing we understand now is not to say who was the driver, dont pay , always appeal and dont ignor the letters, of which we had no intention of doing if only I had the first one. Please help!

Coupon-mad

Stop trying to phone them.

Send the template appeal to CEL, the one from the NEWBIES PLEASE READ THESE FAQS FIRST thread.

Even though it's late, send it (not by post).

Mashlette

Thank you for your help.
I have copied the template, but most of it doeant seem to refere to my situation, neither do I have any eveidence to back my case up - The driver didnt mange to pay for the parking due telephone issues, so there arent telephone records of trying to do so. Thinking about it though, the main issue at this moment is that I DIDNT recieve the original PCN only this Keeper liability notice of the outstanding debt. am i right?
so Ive taken out the two paragraphs that I consider to have no relevance to my case and added my own phrase
I would really appreciate if you could have a look at it and let me know if I need to take something out or put something back in before I send it via cel appeal form..




Re PCN number: xxxxxxxxxxxxx

I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a formal complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner and to my MP.
For your information, I have never received any communication from your client
The original PCN notice you refer to,that was allegedly sent over 30 days ago, has not been recieved, therefore I contest the “outstandind debt “ of £100.

There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. Since your Letter of Notification Regarding Keeper Liabilitie is a vague template, I require ALL photos taken and an explanation of the allegation and your evidence:

- you must include a close up actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date.

Formal note:
Should you later pursue this charge by way of litigation, note that service of any legal documents by email is expressly disallowed and you are not entitled to assume that the data in this dispute/appeal remains the current address for service in the future.

Yours faithfully,
My name
My address

Fruitcake

Everything in the template is relevant to your case. What happened on the day is irrelevant. These scams are only beaten on points of law, not mitigating circumstances.
The NEWBIES tells you that your case is no different to everyone else's.

You go off script at your peril, and in any case, nothing you put in your initial appeal makes any difference to what happens next.

You need to edit your post to remove information about who did what. Only ever refer to The Driver and The Keeper, who are two different people.

The_Deep

This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of alleged contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors.

Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, and others have already been named and shamed in the House of Commons as have Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each week, hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned. They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

The problem has become so widespread that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers. It has even been suggested that some of these companies have links with organised crime.

Watch the video of the Second Reading and committee stage in the House of Commons recently. MPs have a very low opinion of this industry.

http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41

and complain in the most robust terms to your MP. With a fair wind they will be out of business in the not too distant future.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2018-07-19/debates/2b90805c-bff8-4707-8bdc-b0bfae5a7ad5/Parking(CodeOfPractice)Bill(FirstSitting

Mashlette

Thank you for such swift replies. I am now armed with information and ready to battle with these lowlifes !