We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Taking dishonest driver to SCC regarding accident!

1356

Comments

  • stator
    stator Posts: 7,441 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Before I read this thread I knew what it would descend into.
    If you can't answer any of the OPs questions, why don't you just keep out?


    Arguing about who was to blame for an accident you don't understand and didn't witness is completely pointless and irrelevant to this thread.


    Has your own insurer paid out for the damage caused to your car?


    To answer your questions:
    1) Yes, you have to comply with the pre-action protocol
    2) You can hire solicitors, if you can afford it. No-one will take it on a no-win-no-fee basis
    3) You can't. You are expected to minimise your loses. If your car has been written off, that would mean buying another. If not, it should be repaired by now.

    4) No
    5) Poor without witnesses or other evidence
    Changing the world, one sarcastic comment at a time.
  • stator wrote: »
    To answer your questions:
    1) Yes, you have to comply with the pre-action protocol
    2) You can hire solicitors, if you can afford it. No-one will take it on a no-win-no-fee basis
    3) You can't. You are expected to minimise your loses. If your car has been written off, that would mean buying another. If not, it should be repaired by now.
    4) No
    5) Poor without witnesses or other evidence
    I agree with the above. You can only claim your quantifiable losses and you have a duty to minimise those.

    What amount are you intending to claim? It's my view that you are likely to fail in court but only you know how much you have lost and how much more you are prepared to lose in order to secure your targeted sum.
  • DUTR
    DUTR Posts: 12,958 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    1st two comments completely uneccessary and unhelpful.
    Where is the OP in the wrong. The OP is in left lane and there is a stationary/slow vehicle in the right lane. You do know you can pass a cue of slow vehicles on the left dont you Rule 163 of HC?


    Also anyone performing a merge or crossing lanes have the onus on them to make sure the lane is clear from approaching traffic.

    The OP mentioned that he knew the driver as a neighbour or such like, to go in my drive I have to swing out right (although I indicate left), those few seconds would have saved a lot of time now for the OP, it is not condescending, just after a time of driving avoid accidents irrespective of fault is the way to go.
  • 47ka74
    47ka74 Posts: 14 Forumite
    edited 21 November 2018 at 4:30PM
    stator wrote: »
    Before I read this thread I knew what it would descend into.
    If you can't answer any of the OPs questions, why don't you just keep out?


    Arguing about who was to blame for an accident you don't understand and didn't witness is completely pointless and irrelevant to this thread.


    Has your own insurer paid out for the damage caused to your car?


    To answer your questions:
    1) Yes, you have to comply with the pre-action protocol
    2) You can hire solicitors, if you can afford it. No-one will take it on a no-win-no-fee basis
    3) You can't. You are expected to minimise your loses. If your car has been written off, that would mean buying another. If not, it should be repaired by now.

    4) No
    5) Poor without witnesses or other evidence


    Hi. Thanks for your helpful reply.The car has been written off and settlement agreed. Awaiting cheque in the post.


    I am wanting to take this court to reclaim my excess, as well as obviously avoid the negative effects on my insurance premiums for the next five years and for this not to protect my NCB.


    Equally as importantly, I'm angered by the dishonesty of TP so I simply won't let it go.
  • 47ka74
    47ka74 Posts: 14 Forumite
    edited 21 November 2018 at 4:28PM
    I agree with the above. You can only claim your quantifiable losses and you have a duty to minimise those.

    What amount are you intending to claim? It's my view that you are likely to fail in court but only you know how much you have lost and how much more you are prepared to lose in order to secure your targeted sum.


    It is only minimal travel expenses incurred, in addition to what's listed in my above post, in between the courtesy car being taken and settlement cheque being received. Currently awaiting this.
  • The excess and out of pocket expenses are easily defined but you'll have trouble quantifying the cost of increased premiums. Insurance premium calculations are a complex algorithm/random number generator. I can't see how you can quantify the loss of NCB, either, because it's a function of the premiums.

    If you engage a solicitor to help, they will probably cost you more that anything you are likely to win. What's the value of your excess plus expenses? A few hundred pounds?
  • 47ka74
    47ka74 Posts: 14 Forumite
    DUTR wrote: »
    The OP mentioned that he knew the driver as a neighbour or such like, to go in my drive I have to swing out right (although I indicate left), those few seconds would have saved a lot of time now for the OP, it is not condescending, just after a time of driving avoid accidents irrespective of fault is the way to go.


    It's not a neighbour, it's someone halfway down the street. What you are saying is correct in hindsight, and the latter is a wonderful thing... ;-)


    From my viewpoint, it appeared as if TP was turning right, or had simply just stopped.
  • Car_54
    Car_54 Posts: 8,954 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    The excess and out of pocket expenses are easily defined but you'll have trouble quantifying the cost of increased premiums. Insurance premium calculations are a complex algorithm/random number generator.


    Any increased premium following a non-fault claim is usually explained by the demonstrably increased risk of such claimants' having further accidents. However, the risk itself has not in fact increased: the accident has merely highlighted it.



    It can therefore be argued that the increased premium is not the fault of the TP: she has merely helped the insurer more accurately to assess the OP's risk.
  • stator
    stator Posts: 7,441 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    47ka74 wrote: »
    Hi. Thanks for your helpful reply.The car has been written off and settlement agreed. Awaiting cheque in the post.


    I am wanting to take this court to reclaim my excess, as well as obviously avoid the negative effects on my insurance premiums for the next five years and for this not to protect my NCB.


    Equally as importantly, I'm angered by the dishonesty of TP so I simply won't let it go.
    If you win, you should be able to get your excess, plus hire car/travel costs until the point you get the pay out from your insurance.

    You won't get any compensation for your increased insurance costs / loss of NCB
    Changing the world, one sarcastic comment at a time.
  • 47ka74
    47ka74 Posts: 14 Forumite
    Sorry, I could have perhaps worded that better.


    What I meant, with respect to NCB etc., was that I am seeking a full admission of liability and the excess. This would then allow my NCB to not be affected, as well as protect me from increased insurance premiums due to otherwise having a split liability claim on my record. (I appreciate even a non-fault accident has an impact on premiums, albeit limited).


    Thanks.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.7K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.4K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.4K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 601.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.6K Life & Family
  • 259.2K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.