4WD on summer tyres vs 2WD on winter tyres.

neilmcl

Begsey wrote: »

Any recommendations on brands of winter tyres?
Not looking to pay £160 a corner (googled top 10 the other day), but also not looking to buy ditch finders.
26 years without them, without issue, but going for the bib and braces approach this year.

Size?

If you buy online then I'd recommend Nokian WR D3/D4 or A4, if you're looking at cheaper have a look at Hankook.

Begsey

neilmcl wrote: »

Size?

If you buy online then I'd recommend Nokian WR D3/D4 or A4, if you're looking at cheaper have a look at Hankook.

235/40/R18 . Cheers, I'll have a look.

motorguy

neilmcl wrote: »

Size?

If you buy online then I'd recommend Nokian WR D3/D4 or A4, if you're looking at cheaper have a look at Hankook.

And just proving all tyres are compromises - of the Nokian WR D3....

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/89345/nokian-wr-d3-tyre-review

" it struggled in braking and the shallow water of the handling circuit. It turned in well, but lost grip quickly as more lock was applied, and trailed the winning Continental by around two seconds. It also took nearly three metres longer to stop in the wet."

motorguy

neilmcl wrote: »

Just taking those temperatures first, those would be the maximum temperatures in your area, during the busier peak times on the road the actual road temps will be much lower.

Over the past week since the temps have dropped I've definitely noticed the roads to be a lot more "greasier" and I've seen my traction control coming on more than usual. I'm not on my winters at the moment but I know they would cope a lot better than my current tyres. Yes, I agree I'm not falling off the road at the moment but I know if I was in a situation where I suddenly needed the best from my tyres I think I'd prefer to be in the tyres that are more suitable to the conditions.

TBH, this comes up on this forum every year and tbh it gets a bit boring so I'll leave it at that, all I'm going to add is echo what Iceweasel has already said, if you haven't tried winter tyres then you really don't know what you're missing.

Then do what people should be doing in wet and cold conditions and allow more time for journeys, that bit more braking time and take it a bit easier.

And yes it does get a bit boring. The click bait news stories go something like this...

"Blizzard conditions predicted across the UK this winter"

They then post a library picture from somewhere to "demonstrate", something like this....



The story will then mention somewhere in the small text that the snow is actually forecast for high ground somewhere in scotland, but by then half the country has went in to hysterics, booked a fortnight off work, bought themselves a 4x4 and the shops have sold out of bread awaiting the impending doom.... :eek:

[Deleted User]

motorguy wrote: »

Then do what people should be doing in wet and cold conditions and allow more time for journeys, that bit more braking time and take it a bit easier.

And yes it does get a bit boring. The click bait news stories go something like this...

"Blizzard conditions predicted across the UK this winter"

What about the

THUNDERSNOW


If more people drove to changing conditions and allowed the correct time for journeys we would all be less stressed.

fatrab

I'd give a +1 for the Nokians, but only if you're definitely going to be driving in wintery conditions. As motorguy said above, if you're in a part of the UK that doesn't get badly affected the winter tyres won't be a good investment.

My criticism of the Nokians is they didn't perform well above 5C, or in the dry regardless of temperature.

I tried Yoko Advan Winters last year and they weren't worth the extra money, I had less confidence with them in the snow and they played havoc with the cars TPMS.

bigisi

Getting Cross Climate+ fitted this weekend, got a cracking deal on them so don't have to worry about justifying cost. Looking forward to seeing how I get on, my Goodyear summers were particularly bad in the snow and ice last year.

k6chris

bigisi wrote: »

Getting Cross Climate+ fitted this weekend, got a cracking deal on them.

Details (please)!

bigisi

k6chris wrote: »

Details (please)!

ATS Euromaster (mine are 205/55 16 so prices will differ)

- Buy four get fitting for free (saving £50 apparently)
- Buy four get a free Amazon Echo (Echo dot if you only buy 2)
- Get fitted on a Saturday and get another 10% off (£30 for me)
- Booked through Top Cashback so £14.50 back.

If I get £50 for the Echo I will pay £213 and change for four tyres fully fitted. My usual garage quoted me £420 for the same and even buying them separately and getting my local part worn place to fit them would have been around £270.

Edited to add link

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/a-free-amazon-echo-when-you-buy-4-michelin-crossclimate-tyres-plus-more-ats-3099394

Herzlos

Begsey wrote: »

Any recommendations on brands of winter tyres?
Not looking to pay £160 a corner (googled top 10 the other day), but also not looking to buy ditch finders.
26 years without them, without issue, but going for the bib and braces approach this year.

ditchfinding winters are probably still better than good summers in the winter.


Have you had a look at Michelin CrossClimates? They usually seem quite reasonable for most sizes.