4WD on summer tyres vs 2WD on winter tyres.

agrinnall

James2k wrote: »

you missed one too.

4wd on winter tyres > 4wd on A/T tyres > 2wd on winter tyres > 4wd (on crap tyres) > 2wd.

I didn't miss it because it wasn't part of the discussion. If you're going to expand it to include every type of tyre there is it'll be a much longer list.

James2k

agrinnall wrote: »

I didn't miss it because it wasn't part of the discussion. If you're going to expand it to include every type of tyre there is it'll be a much longer list.

Well its relevant as some 4wd have AT tyres, so the people saying that winter tyres > 4WD need to compare correctly.

loskie

Tarambor wrote: »

All those people who think that just buying a 4WD vehicle for winter will be the solution to all their woes when all they need to do is just buy winter tyres for their current car.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atayHQYqA3g

This old chestnut rears its seasonal head.............yaaawn
:snow_grin

Nasqueron

Studded tyres or chains or covers cheaper option


That said I got up hills on my bike with 35c off-road tyres passing people in the big Chelsea tractors stuck in snow on maybe 5% gradients while they wheel spin away, considering studded tyres for the winter if it's as bad as people keep saying, fortunately they're a lot cheaper for the bike than fitting to my car!

THE_Terry_Urr

EssexExile wrote: »

And here I am at 67, been driving for 50 years & never yet felt the need for special tyres in the winter. For the few days there is snow on the ground I drive more carefully.

Exactly this.
I've driven across the A66 in some horrendous weather in the days before they fitted barriers to stop you using the road if it's bad. One particularly memorable winter I saw a Police Range Rover slide off the road in the snow behind me & my little Fiat Uno. No, I didn't (want to risk a) stop. I figured "they've got radio". They were just everyday tyres.

James2k

Nasqueron wrote: »

Studded tyres or chains or covers cheaper option


That said I got up hills on my bike with 35c off-road tyres passing people in the big Chelsea tractors stuck in snow on maybe 5% gradients while they wheel spin away, considering studded tyres for the winter if it's as bad as people keep saying, fortunately they're a lot cheaper for the bike than fitting to my car!

Careful. remember red means stop.

also, yeah you are comparing your pushbike to a car.. hmm tiny skinny tyres vs much wider ones. hmm yeah i can see thats a good comparison. well they are sitting in nice warm leather not freezing their brass monkeys off

James2k

THE_Terry_Urr wrote: »

I saw a Police Range Rover slide off the road in the snow behind me & my little Fiat Uno. No, I didn't (want to risk a) stop. I figured "they've got radio". They were just everyday tyres.

wow.. just wow.

Scrapit

Nasqueron wrote: »

Studded tyres or chains or covers cheaper option


That said I got up hills on my bike with 35c off-road tyres passing people in the big Chelsea tractors stuck in snow on maybe 5% gradients while they wheel spin away, considering studded tyres for the winter if it's as bad as people keep saying, fortunately they're a lot cheaper for the bike than fitting to my car!

Studded tyres in the UK?

James2k

Scrapit wrote: »

Studded tyres in the UK?

Hes talking about his push bike

Gloomendoom

If it gets really, really bad. I've got a full set of chains for my 4x4.

That said, I don't usually use it in the winter. It's too cold and was built with no consideration for secondary safety.