Shared job and minimum wage thoughts

Alisonloub

Hi, myself and my husband have been offered a joint position as duty managers in a hotel. The pay isn’t great between us (£15000 between us) but we have no food/bills (only mobile phone) or travel to pay, we won’t be worse off which is fine but something is niggling me, being live in we are going to be on call pretty much all the time and the hotel (it’s not massive) doesn’t employ many staff.
We got offered the job verbally last week and asked for references which we supplied ASAP but none of the people we gave have heard from the owner and we haven’t had a letter formally offering us the job.
It’s a big relocation for us and we want something in writing (not unreasonable) we also asked in three months if we can prove ourselves to make the business thrive more than it is, could we have a pay review as for me especially I do feel the pay is quite low as it’s a job share but we know it’s not going to be say 20 hours each per week.
Should I be right to have that feeling? It’s something that we have both wanted for a very long time but I can’t shake this feeling that something doesn’t feel right.
Like I say we’ve done the figures and we are probably a few hundred pound better off a month but can’t help thinking that for a job that we are putting I imagine quite a lot of hours each into a week the pay is quite low.

Thanks for reading. (We have asked for a letter offering the job today)

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Just escaped a call centre at just over 15k (pre rise after training completed) to work in a hotel, for 40 hours permanent job at 17k (was surprised to find this negotiable) as live out with free parking and all the usual benefits from a chain/large hotel.

I last worked in the industry at £12,600 back in 2012 so how times change. Again though a permanent job. And I did get 5 years continuous employment behind me and got past 2008 recession in same place.

(The bank allowed an overdraft on the recent £15,270 wage.)

Don't think there are any excuses for no letter, as soon as I received the offer letter for hotel then I found myself added to the staff newsletter round. Though the call centre job was 9 days wait for letter and then a cheeky pay rise announced at 4 weeks so you never know things may be better.

xapprenticex

You're going to relocate for 15k??

Alisonloub

We don’t have rent, bills, food or travel to pay for and won’t be going out as much as we used to due to location, so yes relocate for 15k a year between us. It’s not a lot of money but for what we ‘are getting’ or ‘saving’ (worked out about 11k we would be saving a year on all of the above) and if we can show the boss that we can generate more income (website which needs up dating, social media is non existent, not many functions etc) he has said he will look to raising it in a few months.

I was just wondering peoples thoughts on the wage (that’s not family or friends) if it seems reasonable for the package we are getting, etc.

Thanks for your comments

ohreally

You appear to have your mind made up, I wouldn't touch it with a .bargepole.

agrinnall

It's not £15K a year though, it's £15K plus the value of accommodation, food and any other benefits that the job provides. Would you also have the opportunity to do other part time work to boost your incomes, with one of you working while the other is at the hotel at quiet times?

sangie595

agrinnall wrote: »

It's not £15K a year though, it's £15K plus the value of accommodation, food and any other benefits that the job provides. Would you also have the opportunity to do other part time work to boost your incomes, with one of you working while the other is at the hotel at quiet times?

And your will be taxed on those benefits. They don't come free of charge.

kingfisherblue

I'm no expert, but taking into account the accommodation, food, etc, it still seems very low. You will be working long hours - a job share is where the hours are split between two people, not where both are likely to be working full time hours. You will also have managerial responsibility over other staff, keyholding and security responsibilities, and the onus is on you to improve the hotel's image and income. £15k between two people who will both be working in excess of 20 hours a week, even with accommodation and food included, seems like a bargain for the employer.



I would seriously consider whether this is worth relocating for. What happens if you do not make a success of it? You will be homeless and jobless.

theoretica

There are rules about counting accommodation provided towards minimum wage

https://www.gov.uk/national-minimum-wage-accommodation


As I read this, providing accommodation can be counted as another £49 a week each towards minimum wage. I do not see a mention of what they can charge for food.

TELLIT01

'Duty manager' would generally mean that you would only have responsibility during your working hours, and possibly some on-call time. There would be other 'duty managers' covering other shifts. Is that the situation you are going into?

Owain_Moneysaver

I rather suspect it will be 12 hours on, 12 hours off, for £7500, per person.

One on, the other off. Except when the job needs two of you.

The steps you mention about improving revenue would normally be done by the owner or the general manager reporting to the owner, not duty managers.

In this case I think 'duty manager' is a euphemism for 'general dogsbody without supervision or support'