Daughter working & full time education. CB etc

andrew71

Our daughter (18 years) is at college doing a full time course. She's just got her first part time job. At the moment we get child benefit, working tax credit and child tax credit and I personally get ESA.
Just wondering with her getting her first job (proud parents) which benefits are affected? If they are then so be it. Though we'd like her money to be her own to save.
Thanks for any help

Browntoa

How many part time hours ?

andrew71

It will be 12 hours but she'd like to do more if she can (Christmas shifts etc) She is going to be doing the job temporary hopefully leading up to a more permanent part time job.

Darksparkle

If in full time non advanced education then her working won't affect your claim regardless of the number of hours.

andrew71

Darksparkle wrote: »

If in full time non advanced education then her working won't affect your claim regardless of the number of hours.

The course she is doing is a foundation (art) course hopefully leading up to going university next September. Would this be classed as non advanced education?

calcotti

See what you may of this
https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/tax-credits-technical-manual/tctm02230
The answer isn't clear to me. I suspect it may be advanced education but I don't know - may be worth asking the college if they can confirm. What qualification does she get at the end of it?

This may also be relevant
https://www.gov.uk/what-different-qualification-levels-mean/list-of-qualification-levels

Going back to your opening question I don't think the fact she's got a job makes a difference. I think the question is whether or not you still qualify for the benefits at all and this depends on daughter's education status.

sheramber

Advanced education
The Child Tax Credit Regulations 2002, Regulation 2(1)(a)(b)
A person is receiving advanced education if they are studying a course for the purposes of:

preparation for a degree
a diploma of higher education
a higher national diploma
a higher national certificate of Edexcel
a teaching qualification
any other course which is a standard above what is considered by the Child Tax Credit Regulations to be ‘non-advanced’

A foundation course is preparation for a degree.

According to Child Benefit a foundation degree is advanced education.

Child Benefit (General) Regulations 2006, regulation 1, (3)

Advanced education means a course of education which is

above the equivalent of level 3 on the Qualifications and Credit Framework (QCF) in England, Wales and Northern Ireland - level 3 being the equivalent of GCSE A level, or
above the equivalent level 7 on the Scottish Credit and Qualifications Framework (SCQF) in Scotland - level 7 being the equivalent to Higher National Certificate

Note*: *However, Higher National Certificate Level 7 and the Certificate of Higher Education Level 7 in Scotland are both advanced education

For example

a degree or a preparation for a degree (eg. a foundation degree),
a diploma of higher education,
a higher national diploma,
a teaching qualification

calcotti

I couldn't find the bit that related advanced and non advanced to education levels so thanks for that.

My view is that a foundation course is likely to be level 5 (assuming it is a foundation degree rather than a glorified A level) and therefore advanced education in which case entitlement to Child Benefit and Child Tax Credits has ended (in which case OP needs to notify relevant authorities in order to avoid overpayment).

There may still be entitlement to Working Tax Credits depending on circumstances.