Leave Request Denied Unfairly???

C_Mababejive

OP let it pass but bear it in mind. You may be able to shaft him or the company further down line.

Takeaway_Addict

jonnygee2 wrote: »

Yes you are right it is unfair. He sounds like a terrible manager.

If I were you I'd email your director directly and say;
___________

Hi _____

I'm just emailing about my holiday request in April that I asked my manager about on (say the date you first told your manager).

I know that you told ____ (manager) that I'd have to pick a different date as he had already submitted his request. However, this date is really important to me because (make something up, but not too dramatic!). I was wondering if you could make an exception, I will do (say some things you can do to make sure cover is adequate etc). Is there any way that this could work?

Thanks for your time and understanding, looking forward to hearing from you.

Kind Regards,

________

Hopefully your director will put two and two together when you mention the date. I doubt you'll get your holiday approved, but it'll call your manager out without having to make any formal complaints etc.

This is terrible terrible advice....just don't

Comms69

jonnygee2 wrote: »

No, it's not a joke! It's exactly how I would handle it at work. It's not going over anyone's head as the OP would be making a simple plea to the person they were told made the decision about their holiday to reverse their decision. The manager was quite explicit in saying that the director made the decision. It is perfectly reasonable and normal to communicate directly with the decision maker and its the best chance of getting the holiday approved. - And the director tells his subordinate, your manager, to sort your attitude out...

I disagree there would be consequences, so long as the email is phrased in a way that its asking a question rather than making a complaint, but I guess that depends on the OP's work environment.

Disagree as much as you like.

C_Mababejive wrote: »

OP let it pass but bear it in mind. You may be able to shaft him or the company further down line.

Because that's sensible and mature.


It's a leave request being rejected. Get over it

ACG

I would be fuming in your shoes.
I would raise it with the manager directly and ask why when you requested it first, he has got the days off.

You know your manager better than we do, but I would expect if you went above his head there there is more of a likelihood he will make a bee line for you in future. I always prefer people coming to speak to me directly about problems rather than going around or above me...assuming I am the problem - which is never the case :-P

ReadingTim

hambleton1 wrote: »

He has never denied a request before. I feel on this occasion he has abused his position by denying a request just because he wanted it instead.

Suggest you might need to take the long view on this one. Fact is, you're trying to book holiday over a pretty popular couple of weeks (Easter), and you've always got your way / never had a request denied before.

Your manger has tried to see if you can both be off, but that's been denied by the Director - if he were abusing his position, he'd have outright denied your request. He didn't - would you have preferred he lied and said "sorry, that week's already been booked"? Also, it's entirely possible you could have had a clash with a colleague and not your manager - there's always someone who's going to be disappointed in situations like this.

So, as a one-off, I'd suggest you've just been unlucky. But if it happens several times, then it's abusing positions etc, but you're not at that stage yet....sadly mate, life isn't always fair.

TBagpuss

What does your full holiday policy say? Ours says that you should check with for clashes before you put in the request, so the fact that your manager told you,when you asked, that he intended to be off, would tell you that there was a clash and that you probably would not get the time.

It may be that your boss had not made the formal request, but he told you .

I think that if you did decide to raise a grievance to claim that they had not followed the policy management might well make the view that in those circumstances, your manager had not breached the policy ( or that if he had done so technically, he hadn't broken the spirit of it - you knew when you made the request that he wanted those days, The fact that you were told by your manager verbally rather than by the holiday chart doesn't change the fact that you were told).

That said, if this is importnat to you and you think it is worth the potential damage it will do to your remationship with your manager, you could submit a grievance on the basis that you don't think he followed the process.

It's possible that your management will agree.If they do, they may cancel his holiday and grant your, but they don't have to. They might take the view that it is unfortunate but you haven't lost anything (as your request was never approved) whereas if your boss has already booked something on the basis his request was granted, they may feel that cancelling his leave would be over kill, so may simply remind him o the policy and tell him not to do it again. And that is assuming that they agree with your interpretation of what happened.

Smodlet

He's your manager. He can make your life unbearable if he is anything like the majority of managers I have had to suffer. Sticking my neck over the parapet for a week's leave was never worth the fall-out. Even the stuff that was worth it, wasn't in the long term.

Book alternative leave or just plain leave would seem to be your options. Unless you hate your job to the point where it is making you ill, I would just get over it and be a bit flexible, were I you. Who knows, maybe you could negotiate with your manager to get the leave you want for next holiday, pile on the guilt, perhaps? You know how he ticks; we don't.