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Leave Request Denied Unfairly???

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  • Marvel1
    Marvel1 Posts: 7,461 Forumite
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    Yes sorry yes an opinion not law.

    OP, if like my work place they do a whip round to buy the manager a Xmas gift or anything else, well I know my answer if asked "no" that's being the polite term. (Some reason I'm now waiting for someone to say as an employee you must give ;))
  • Comms69
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    cjdavies wrote: »
    Yes sorry yes an opinion not law.

    OP, if like my work place they do a whip round to buy the manager a Xmas gift or anything else, well I know my answer if asked "no" that's being the polite term. (Some reason I'm now waiting for someone to say as an employee you must give ;))

    I’ve never encountered this scenario- so I can’t say it’s ‘common practice’
  • pinkshoes
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    hambleton1 wrote: »
    He has never denied a request before. I feel on this occasion he has abused his position by denying a request just because he wanted it instead.

    The very fact he requested if it would be ok if you were both off at the same time implies that he had already planned to taken that week off.

    He is the manager. He could have just said no outright. At least he asked...

    Raising a complaint would be foolish as there is no law stating you have the right to choose your holiday dates.

    Again, why not just take the other Easter week off?
    Should've = Should HAVE (not 'of')
    Would've = Would HAVE (not 'of')

    No, I am not perfect, but yes I do judge people on their use of basic English language. If you didn't know the above, then learn it! (If English is your second language, then you are forgiven!)
  • robatwork
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    Regardless of what it says on the form, what does it say in your company handbook/contract about holidays?
  • Marvel1
    Marvel1 Posts: 7,461 Forumite
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    pinkshoes wrote: »
    The very fact he requested if it would be ok if you were both off at the same time implies that he had already planned to taken that week off.

    Planned but not requested.
  • nicechap
    nicechap Posts: 2,852 Forumite
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    edited 28 October 2018 at 11:53AM
    Nicked from another thread:
    shortcrust wrote: »
    Contact the Ministry of Fairness. They’ll send in a team who’ll seize and examine the records related to the recruitment exercise and interview those involved. If sufficient evidence of unfairness is discovered you’ll get an apology, a permanent contract with backdated benefits, a ‘Let’s Make it Fair!’ tshirt and mug, and those guilty of unfairness will be sent on a Fairness Awareness course.

    I sometimes wonder how many posters who complain about work life being unfair, are willing to take collective action to achieve a more fair society.
    Originally Posted by shortcrust
    "Contact the Ministry of Fairness....If sufficient evidence of unfairness is discovered you’ll get an apology, a permanent contract with backdated benefits, a ‘Let’s Make it Fair!’ tshirt and mug, and those guilty of unfairness will be sent on a Fairness Awareness course."
  • sangie595
    sangie595 Posts: 6,092 Forumite
    nicechap wrote: »
    I sometimes wonder how many posters who complain about work life being unfair, are willing to take collective action to achieve a more fair society.
    I don't. Because I know the answer. One of my favourite occupations is listening to people complain that the unions are useless and did nothing, when they aren't members! And then when "the union" do something, the same people grouch and gripe about how it inconveniences them.
  • sangie595
    sangie595 Posts: 6,092 Forumite
    cjdavies wrote: »
    Planned but not requested.
    So... what...??? Even if that's true, and for all we (and the OP) know, hiss request was already on the directors desk, so what? Life isn't fair. The OP has five months to find another date.
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    hambleton1 wrote: »
    That's exactly why I'm not going to raise it with HR. Just wanted opinions.

    If you won't do anything about it then your line manager can do what they like when it comes to holidays and just about anything else.

    They have thrown your interpretation of the rules away so any discussion of those rules is redundant.
  • jonnygee2
    jonnygee2 Posts: 2,086 Forumite
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    If the OP does this, going over the head of their line manager, then there will be consequences. As others have already said, there are very likely to be consequences, and not pleasant ones.

    No, it's not a joke! It's exactly how I would handle it at work. It's not going over anyone's head as the OP would be making a simple plea to the person they were told made the decision about their holiday to reverse their decision. The manager was quite explicit in saying that the director made the decision. It is perfectly reasonable and normal to communicate directly with the decision maker and its the best chance of getting the holiday approved.

    I disagree there would be consequences, so long as the email is phrased in a way that its asking a question rather than making a complaint, but I guess that depends on the OP's work environment.
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