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My rights around Christmas Day working
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Potbellypig wrote: »Seems a fair enough request. If they can't accommodate your request to work the morning shift, I'd just call them on Christmas Day and say your child is poorly and you can't come in. Problem solved.
I can only hope that one day, perhaps when you're old and infirm, maybe bedridden and needing to visit the toilet, someone takes that approach with you.0 -
Brilliant. Just Brilliant.
As the O/P is a social care worker i'm going to hazard a guess that there is an actual need for them to work Christmas day and as such to do your suggestion would be letting other potentially vulnerable people in need down and their colleagues down, rather than they're just being asked to work for fun.
The O/P has two months to sort it out - they need to do the responsibile thing and find other arrangements.
What happens if OP dies this morning of Christmas? They call someone else in to do the job.Undervalued wrote: »Which would be gross misconduct!
No it wouldn't.ReadingTim wrote: »I can only hope that one day, perhaps when you're old and infirm, maybe bedridden and needing to visit the toilet, someone takes that approach with you.
In which case, I'll sleep safe in the knowledge that a loving family are spending quality time with each other on the day of the year that they should do.0 -
Potbellypig wrote: »What happens if OP dies this morning of Christmas? They call someone else in to do the job.
- Indeed. The OP presumably wont die.
No it wouldn't.
- Lying about sickness. Yes it would be.
In which case, I'll sleep safe in the knowledge that a loving family are spending quality time with each other on the day of the year that they should do.
Frankly you're an idiot (and yes feel free to report that).
You're suggesting someone, a single parent at that, risks their job and the health and wellbeing of several vulnerable people; and lumbers extra work on their colleagues.
and you're telling the OP it will be fine....0 -
Frankly you're an idiot (and yes feel free to report that).
You're suggesting someone, a single parent at that, risks their job and the health and wellbeing of several vulnerable people; and lumbers extra work on their colleagues.
and you're telling the OP it will be fine....
Fortunately, I'm not a snowflake like yourself that gets offended by words on the internet.
Fortunately for the OP, we live in a world where your child can be ill and you can take the time off work to look after them. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depends on which way you want to look at it) for the OP, this could fall on Christmas Day. Fortunately, those that decide to voluntarily accept the offer of being paid to work on Christmas Day as OP's replacement actually get paid for doing so.
Fortunately for the OP - yes I'm telling them don't worry about. If it doesn't get sorted, there's still a way she can spend all day with her loved ones on Christmas Day.0 -
Potbellypig wrote: »Fortunately, I'm not a snowflake like yourself that gets offended by words on the internet. - Oh here we go. Someone watched a youtube video and thinks that everyone who disagrees is a snowflake. I'm not offended. You are factually incorrect, that's not an opinion.
Fortunately for the OP, we live in a world where your child can be ill and you can take the time off work to look after them - Says who?. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depends on which way you want to look at it) for the OP, this could fall on Christmas Day. - And unfortunately for the OP, who is also likely working a zero hours role. he/she could lose her job because of your terrible 'advice' Fortunately, those that decide to voluntarily accept the offer of being paid to work on Christmas Day as OP's replacement actually get paid for doing so. - you realise there's actual human beings involved in this right?
Fortunately for the OP - yes I'm telling them don't worry about. If it doesn't get sorted, there's still a way she can spend all day with her loved ones on Christmas Day.
And potentially never work in this field again.... Well done you.0 -
Potbellypig wrote: »Fortunately, I'm not a snowflake like yourself that gets offended by words on the internet.
Fortunately for the OP, we live in a world where your child can be ill and you can take the time off work to look after them. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depends on which way you want to look at it) for the OP, this could fall on Christmas Day. Fortunately, those that decide to voluntarily accept the offer of being paid to work on Christmas Day as OP's replacement actually get paid for doing so.
Fortunately for the OP - yes I'm telling them don't worry about. If it doesn't get sorted, there's still a way she can spend all day with her loved ones on Christmas Day.
Unfortunately for the OP, she can be disciplined for lying. On such a coincidental day as Christmas I am sure they will ask for proof of such an illness, a doctors appt, a hospital appt perhaps.
Or maybe, they wont, and next time they need to get rid of some staff or cut some hours, it will be the coincidental person who always had an ill child at Christmas.
What if they all have children? What if the person pulled in to cover OP worked last Christmas, and it was her turn off?0 -
marliepanda wrote: »Unfortunately for the OP, she can be disciplined for lying. On such a coincidental day as Christmas I am sure they will ask for proof of such an illness, a doctors appt, a hospital appt perhaps.
It will depend on the sick policy of the company. If the company policy lets you self certify for a short term sickness absence they can’t then enforce a different sickness policy just because it is Christmas Day.0 -
It will depend on the sick policy of the company. If the company policy lets you self certify for a short term sickness absence they can’t then enforce a different sickness policy just because it is Christmas Day.
Don't be silly. If the company believe that the employee is lying about sickness, they can insist on whatever they like.0 -
It will depend on the sick policy of the company. If the company policy lets you self certify for a short term sickness absence they can’t then enforce a different sickness policy just because it is Christmas Day.
They cant, no. However a child being sick is not a reason for you, as an employee to phone in sick.0 -
Potbellypig wrote: »What happens if OP dies this morning of Christmas?
Then they wont have to worry about the ensuing disciplinary and potential loss of job due to gross misconduct.Potbellypig wrote: »No it wouldn't.
A child being sick is not a reason not to turn up for work.Potbellypig wrote: »
In which case, I'll sleep safe in the knowledge that a loving family are spending quality time with each other on the day of the year that they should do.
...knowing you will be about to potentially lose their job and that you've let potentially vulnerable people and colleagues down?0
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