House Building everywhere, Can it Continue?

C_Mababejive

Many new builds are vastly overpriced, tiny ,poorly built slums. We in the UK live in the smallest most expensive houses in the developed world and why? Because we are mugs. The quality and methodology of construction is a total joke.

Isnt it about time we moved away from people gluing baked clods of earth together on some wet windswept site?

Homes should be engineered and manufactured in factories and assembled on site. Precision enginered, high quality control,high energy performance standards etc,,costs go down/quality goes up..but then housebuilders dont want that.

triathlon

C_Mababejive wrote: »

Many new builds are vastly overpriced, tiny ,poorly built slums. We in the UK live in the smallest most expensive houses in the developed world and why? Because we are mugs. The quality and methodology of construction is a total joke.

Isnt it about time we moved away from people gluing baked clods of earth together on some wet windswept site?

Homes should be engineered and manufactured in factories and assembled on site. Precision enginered, high quality control,high energy performance standards etc,,costs go down/quality goes up..but then housebuilders dont want that.

I am fine with that, as long as they don't start handing land out like confetti

Mistermeaner

Low cost and higher quality would have the competitive edge resulting in higher profits - if what you say is right this is what house builders would be doing

If they are stupid and you know more than them time to start a business

triathlon

People just need to start getting used to the fact that as the decades pass housing owning will get progressively harder, population growth(immigration and natural) the need to keep prices at the very least level so the banks and UK economy survive.
The 1980's was the golden era to buy property, it will be never return to that unless half the population leave or are wiped out.

That's why I get so angry and doom mongers and that horrible cult website HPC.com, wasting other peoples lives for their false mantra

PasturesNew

People often mention infrastructure and "not building more Doctor surgeries or schools" - in the main, in most areas, people buying these houses will be "locals"... nobody moves 200 miles just because houses are being built.

As locals, they'll already have their kids in a school, or be registered at a Doctor. So there will be no increase in the number of people requiring the services.

The fact is, these people who wish to buy houses already exist... they might be with parents, or renting, but they're already in residence. They won't "need", mostly, a school or a Doctor as they already have one. They might find that's not where they'd ideally wish it to be, but they do have one.

If they exit a rental and move 2 miles along the road to buy they'll have a Doctor and a school. Any problem will occur in the location they vacated as new people move in there who will wish to have those things, but, in the main, they're probably locals anyway too ... so are already sorted.

ukcarper

Not sure that is entirely correct I live in commuter belt and like I did when I first bought they are moving out from nearer London.

Cakeguts

London and the SouthEast has a problem which has got worse recently. I think that this is down to unintelligent people going to university and expecting to get a well paid job when they leave. When they can't get that locally they move to London to get the well paid job but because they are unintelligent and have nothing to offer they get a job that is better paid but not well enough paid to live in London. While this continues wages won't rise for the lower paid in London because there is always some idiot from a cheaper area thinking that because they earn more they will be better off to fill the vacances.



In London what we need is more affordable housing for local people and by local people I mean people who went to school in the SouthEast and not people who have moved from another area because they are stupid and didn't check first that they could afford to live there.



There also needs to be education for these unintelligent people about the costs of moving to London. You can't really complain about not being able to buy a house in one of the most expensive areas of the country if you moved there from somewhere where you could get a job and could then afford to buy just because you feel entitled to more money because you have degree from some dud university in some silly subject that no employer of graduates is interested in.

Pennywise

Mistermeaner wrote: »

If where you are is such a great opportunity that everyone else is missing why not start a business doing as you suggest ?

Because you need the local councils and government to do their part too! It's impossible to convert derelict shops in our town centre because the local council's "plan" is for retail/leisure, so they immediately refuse any plans for residential conversions. It's up to government to facilitate new public transport such as trams/trains - yet they concentrate on London and HS2 instead of improving public transport in run down towns. It's up to local councils to actually take their option to bring empty domestic properties back into us. It's up to Government to make second properties less attractive by increasing tax. How do you propose that any business can do things that are council/government responsibilities?? Businesses do what they can - they can't do what they can't!

C_Mababejive

Mistermeaner wrote: »

Low cost and higher quality would have the competitive edge resulting in higher profits - if what you say is right this is what house builders would be doing

If they are stupid and you know more than them time to start a business

There are plenty of house builders already doing it.

In countries such as Sweden, Denmark and Germany , prefabricated houses have been available for a long time.


For example,,
https://www.huf-haus.com/en-uk/

Obviously upscale but could be scaled to fit the miserably small plots available to the many in the UK.

Also

https://www.dan-wood.co.uk/houses/2-storey-houses

etc etc

ruperts

C_Mababejive wrote: »

There are plenty of house builders already doing it.

In countries such as Sweden, Denmark and Germany , prefabricated houses have been available for a long time.


For example,,
https://www.huf-haus.com/en-uk/

Obviously upscale but could be scaled to fit the miserably small plots available to the many in the UK.

Also

https://www.dan-wood.co.uk/houses/2-storey-houses

etc etc

You can’t do groundworks or lay foundations in a factory. Roof trusses are already assembled offsite, as are windows and doors. Timber frame sections are usually measured and cut off site. What’s left? Walls? I don’t know, manually built brick walls go up pretty quick anyway, and aren’t a huge part of the overall cost of the house. Any solid wall is also going to be pretty heavy so costly to transport and move around on site. I can’t see there being much of a benefit in the grand scheme of things.