confirmation of procedures for PCN

Johnojones

Hello, I received a parking ticket of which i vehemently refuse to accept due to lack of signage. I have followed the guidelines given here that match all other internet searches, but the replies, appeal times, etc from the council warden department do not seem to be follow the procedures.Allow me to be as brief as possible.

I logged an appeal direct through the council website and addressed the letter as an informal appeal and within the initial timelines. i did not supply any photographic or other evidence at this stage, there were no options to upload any files .

I received an email reply refusing the appeal on the grounds that although no signs or markings were in the street i parked in, I was in a permit controlled zone, and in short, there is no need for further signage, therefore the charge will not be cancelled. I wish to dispute this .

the discounted charge was extended, but no forms or channels of appeal enclosed.
I awaited the next step which was a NTO. this gave only 14 days to reply ( not 28 ?) and a form giving the options of admitting driver and payment, denying ownership etc, but again, no appeal forms or options to do so.

On the 13th day I visited the council to say there was no way I could return the form as I would be admitting liability, and of course the only options given was to do this and pay the fine. there was nobody available at that time and I received a phone call as promised the next day. Strangely by the environmental health dept! anyways after failing to agree anything the, the council member insisted that the INFORMAL appeal has been treated as a FORMAL appeal and I have a 2nd and final opportunity to appeal and said to just email them and gave me the address. Having been disillusioned with all this, I pondered my options only to now receive a Notice of intended prosecution within 7 days of letter and I only have until tomorrow, Thursday 18th to make full payment otherwise court proceedings will begin. please advise, many thanks.

Daver

Thus forum only deals with PRIVATE parking charged a Parking Charge Notice, you have a Penalty Charge Notice from the Council, I think that you may find that if it's a Permit controlled area there will be signs notifying you of this fact at either end of the road and therefore you have been notified and won't have a leg to stand on......probably best to pay up, Penalty charge notices from the Council are notoriously difficult to overturn without VERY good reason......Private parking company Parking charge notices are what you have researched on here and are an entirely different proposition.

Umkomaas

won't have a leg to stand on......probably best to pay up, Penalty charge notices from the Council are notoriously difficult to overturn without VERY good reason.....

Not the best advice at this stage, read below......

PePiPoo will be your best bet for council tickets. Register there (but please note that a hotmail address won't work - try using a gmail account instead if you do have trouble registering) and post a new thread; here's your link:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=30

Have a read through some of the other threads there before you post your own to get the hang of what information they need from you in your opening post - but as a minimum you will need to post redacted photos/scans of all correspondence you've received from the council (both sides, if appropriate) as they need to see all the small print.

PePiPoo has an excellent success record in dealing with council tickets.

HTH

Johnojones

Thanks for the advice Umkomaas, I have now transferred over to pepipoo. but is it a problem losing the original PCN.? For all the hassle this is creating, now I cannot locate it for the life of me, I think i have been a victim of the wife clearing my PC desk-:mad:

Umkomaas

Why not ask the council for a copy - phone call might get it for you - otherwise submit a Subject Access Request to formally ask for it?