Awaiting eviction vulnerable tenant.

Cakeguts

BlackBird75 wrote: »

It's pointless speculating about who the landlord is.

Obviously, this is the reason the government appoint judges to hear these kind of cases, rather than juries. That avoids the general public having too much say in the matter.

But you won't find the mainstream media mentioning this...

I actually can't see why it matters who the landlord is. If this was a shop that was owed £32,000 would you still say that it mattered who owned the shop? Landlords sell space for people to live in. They deserve to be paid for that space just like shop deserves to be paid for what it sells.

BlackBird75

Cakeguts wrote: »

I actually can't see why it matters who the landlord is. If this was a shop that was owed £32,000 would you still say that it mattered who owned the shop? Landlords sell space for people to live in. They deserve to be paid for that space just like shop deserves to be paid for what it sells.

You can't compare shops to houses.
Anyone can buy and sell goods, but housing supply is regulated by the government.
People also have much more choice over where they shop etc.
Shops generally aren't subjected to hoarding of wealth, in the same way as housing has been.

Cakeguts

Vulnerable is not the right description for the OP. They are unwell but not vulnerable.


A vulnerable tenant would not have been able to rent a £4000 pcm flat in the first place. Vulnerable means that they are not able to function fully in normal life because they have the kind of disability where they find running their lives difficult. A vulnerable tenant would not be able to apply to court to have the date changed they have to do things with the help of social workers.


Since you do not fit the criteria for vulnerable you unlikely to get the kind of help a genuinely vulnerable person would.



I would suggest that you stop using the "vulnerable tenant" explanation and start to pack up as soon as possible. They are not going to give you extra time to move because you have known that you would have to move since the first court date and the section 8 hearing.



First thing find somewhere for the cats.


Find somewhere that you can live it is urgent.

Cakeguts

BlackBird75 wrote: »

You can't compare shops to houses.
Anyone can buy and sell goods, but housing supply is regulated by the government.
People also have much more choice over where they shop etc.
Shops generally aren't subjected to hoarding of wealth, in the same way as housing has been.

How on earth do you think that housing supply is regulated by the government. The government doesn't build houses builders build houses.



These shops that don't hoard wealth? Who do you think owns the buildings that they sell from. There are supermarkets all over the UK that own their shops. They don't rent them.

BlackBird75

Cakeguts wrote: »

Vulnerable is not the right description for the OP. They are unwell but not vulnerable.


A vulnerable tenant would not have been able to rent a £4000 pcm flat in the first place. Vulnerable means that they are not able to function fully in normal life because they have the kind of disability where they find running their lives difficult. A vulnerable tenant would not be able to apply to court to have the date changed they have to do things with the help of social workers.


Since you do not fit the criteria for vulnerable you unlikely to get the kind of help a genuinely vulnerable person would.



I would suggest that you stop using the "vulnerable tenant" explanation and start to pack up as soon as possible. They are not going to give you extra time to move because you have known that you would have to move since the first court date and the section 8 hearing.



First thing find somewhere for the cats.


Find somewhere that you can live it is urgent.

"Vulnerable" can mean anything these days.
The mainstream media has twisted the official definition to include junkies and criminals etc.

BlackBird75

Cakeguts wrote: »

How on earth do you think that housing supply is regulated by the government. The government doesn't build houses builders build houses.
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That's good news.
I can just buy a field and build a house on it then.
No need for planning permission.

Cakeguts

BlackBird75 wrote: »

That's good news.
I can just buy a field and build a house on it then.
No need for planning permission.

Of course you might need to ask your local council for planning permission and that council might be a Labour one.

Tobby230

Gosh you really are a bunch of mad people.

antrobus

BlackBird75 wrote: »

I don't think you can be charged with blackmail for reporting a criminal offence. ...

What you said was "you could contact the landlord directly and tell him you're going to contact HMRC, and ask them to check he has been declaring his rental income (unless he calls off the eviction)"

That is attempted blackmail. Particularly as you don't know whether or not the landlord has declared the rental income or not.

BlackBird75 wrote: »

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Residential squatting is illegal, but as you say, it would be the squatters problem, not the OP's. ...

Which is why you will find that the local squatter network won't be interested.

BlackBird75 wrote: »

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The HCEOs may call the police, to avoid a breach of the peace. But chances are the police will be busy and it will cause a delay because the HCEOs will want to return with plenty of support. ...

Or they might meekly comply and exit the premises. Or it might take a couple of hours for plod to turn up. What would be the point?

BlackBird75 wrote: »

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It's all desperate stuff, but OP has little to lose. He's massively in debt to the landlord and bankrupt already.

You're right it is all "desperate stuff" and would not in any way help the OP in the slightest bit. An orderly exit from the property is the best they can hope for.

P.S. Desperate stuff is not a synonym for advice.:)

Cakeguts

Tobby230 wrote: »

Gosh you really are a bunch of mad people.

No we just get annoyed when people who are supposed to be helping someone else post things that don't help anyone except help themselves to get noticed or to try to prove an unrelated point.