Parking at the Range Free Car Park

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I am not the driver but am the keeper of a vehicle which parked in a free car park whilst shopping for 20 minutes in The Range . No ANPR installed as it seems a mobile van and man with a camera took of photo of my car parked in a disabled bay without a blue badge. The driver is elderly disabled with arthritis but does not have a badge. No ticket was issued there - just a letter a few weeks later to me as the registered keeper from UKCPS with a request for £60 . I returned their letter stating I was not the driver and did not give them the name of the driver. After 28 days another letter arrived asking for £100. Anyone else experienced this I would think no-one by law has to own a blue badge to prove disability? Would appreciate advice. Thank you.

Coupon-mad

No ANPR installed as it seems a mobile van and man with a camera took of photo of my car parked in a disabled bay without a blue badge. No ticket was issued there - just a letter a few weeks later to me as the registered keeper from UKCPS with a request for £60

How long afterwards did the NTK arrive, exact dates please?

Does the NTK talk about keeper liability after 28/29 days, or does it witter on about some debt collector rubbish happening after 42 days?

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Hi, Thank you for reply. I sent letter back so can't remember exact date - but it must have been 4th September as latest letter says " 28 days have now passed since we wrote to you."

Also says , "you have been sent this Notification Letter for this Parking Charge Notice as you are liable for the charge"

I think I do remember the first letter going on about keeper/driver etc.

Coupon-mad

I sent letter back

OMG, you sent the NTK back? NEVER do that with any type of PCN, not even a Council one. When you appeal you do NOT return the document you need to retain!

What was the gap between the parking event, and the probable first letter (NTK)?

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Oh dear - sounds I did something that doesn;t help me. Time frame was 5 days after parking event.

Iceweasel

Where in the UK did this take place?

If it's a Range in Scotland or NI then different rules apply.

bspm1

No idea re tickets etc and whether you should pay or fight but, if you dont have a disabled badge then you shouldnt park in disabled bays.

Simples

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Hi, it was in Wales

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I have read that a blue badge only applies to local authority car parks and that private ones have no authority to discriminate people who are disabled, badge or not..

KeithP

If a private parking company has a condition attached to a particular bay that states you must have a blue badge displayed to park in that bay, it is possible that by parking there you may have agreed to that term of the contract.

Coupon-mad

No ticket was issued there - just a letter a few weeks later to me as the registered keeper from UKCPS with a request for £60 . I returned their letter stating I was not the driver and did not give them the name of the driver. After 28 days another letter arrived asking for £100.

The driver is elderly disabled with arthritis.

I think you should write and provide evidence - if the driver is in agreement - that 'an occupant of the car' has a disabling medical condition that affects their mobility, and that is why they were entitled to use the provision of a wider bay that the landowner provided to cover its duties to the disabled population at large (not just Blue Badge holders; the Equality Act 2010 is silent on that).

Send the same thing to the retailer/landowner and talk about disability discrimination and ask how that individual can avoid PCNs in future and get this one cancelled - because they clearly need to be on a white list.

Try it.

Even if turned down, at least the keeper has told UKCPS* about the disability which looks far more reasonable to a Court (later) than ignoring them and leaving them oblivious.



* was it definitely them? Not UKPC? No POPLA offered?