Notice to keeper following Parking Charge Notice

drood

Hi,

Thanks for providing the invaluable information for newbies on this board. I am about to use the template letter to appeal the notice to keeper but wanted to check whether I should add any additional information as the particularities of the case relate to a charge for waiting on a grass verge whilst waiting for a parking space. Should I add in detail about the incident that led to the parking charge or do I simply send the appeal letter as per the template? Details follow.

The driver was in a private car park. It was a very busy day in the summer holidays with many people waiting to park. There were some spaces further down the car park but a car had broken down and was blocking several of them so the driver stopped on the verge alongside one of the roads in the car park and asked the attendant if it was ok to wait there whilst it was moved and that he would purchase a ticket in the meantime so that he was not in the car park without a ticket. Attendant confirmed that was ok. Driver left the engine running, and went to get a ticket, but this took about 20 minutes because there were about 2 dozen people in front of him. When he got back to the car, there was a parking charge notice on it and guess what - no sign of the attendant. He thought it was a mistake, so parked the car in the space which had now become available and thought no more about it. A couple of weeks ago I got a NOK, so took the advice on this site and emailed the landowner detailing what had happened and requesting that the charge be cancelled. I also sent it by post for good measure. That was 3 weeks ago and have had no response so presume that the landowner doesn't give a monkeys.

Should I just send the standard appeal letter or add the above to it?

Thanks in advance.

Coupon-mad

Typical scam. Which PPC?

Do not add any of that, the entire story tells them who the driver was!

Now edit your above post HEAVILY..or change it all to 'the driver did this...'

drood

Thanks for the advice. The PPC is AS Parking.

Coupon-mad

Not a firm who grant any appeals, and they are IPC (not in the BPA AOS) so no POPLA, no further appeal worth trying. The NEWBIES thread tells you why NOT to try IAS.

IPC cases just need one dispute appeal then ignore them unless you move house (tell them in writing your new address within 6 years) or if they try a small claim, in which case come back. We see wins reported in 99% of cases here, when well defended.

You could search for AS Parking on Google but they are hard to use as forum search terms, your search would find every time people typed the word 'as' and the word 'parking' which is every thread, every day! Google will be better for searching & reading (nothing older than 2017).

drood

Cheers Coupon-Mad. Appreciate the super fast response. I have already googled the firm and found quite a lot about their tactics on other forums. Will send appeal as advised and go from there. Have appealed a number of parking fines from councils in the past and always won but ironically never from a private firm, so wasn't sure how the land lies. Thanks again, will let you know how it goes...

Coupon-mad

It's an outrageous scam, and the land lies rockily. Keep steady!

For 6 years they could sue...but it's not a risk to your credit rating as long as you do not ignore court stage, and keep them updated re your address to make sue they can't sneak a secret CCJ through to an old address a few years later.

Bring it on, basically!

drood

As a quick aside, do I appeal to the IPC or direct to the company? I thought the company but as you mention IPC, I am just checking.

Cheers.

KeithP

Send the blue template appeal unchanged to AS Parking.

Send it as the keeper.

drood

Just a quick update since my original post at the beginning of October. I sent the blue template appeal as advised via the form on the PPC's website, and was then issued with a second NTK (exact copy of the first) which was a bit odd. Nothing then heard til yesterday when I received a "Final Notice", threatening that if I don't pay within 14 days debt recovery will be pursued and extra fees added.

Do I still continue to ignore as advised earlier?

Thanks.

onlyfoolsandparking

drood wrote: »

Just a quick update since my original post at the beginning of October. I sent the blue template appeal as advised via the form on the PPC's website, and was then issued with a second NTK (exact copy of the first) which was a bit odd. Nothing then heard til yesterday when I received a "Final Notice", threatening that if I don't pay within 14 days debt recovery will be pursued and extra fees added.

Do I still continue to ignore as advised earlier?

Thanks.

Yes ignore all debt collector scumbags as advised in newbies section, they have no powers at all apart from sending threatening letters with scary red writing on.

beamerguy

drood wrote: »

Nothing then heard til yesterday when I received a "Final Notice", threatening that if I don't pay within 14 days debt recovery will be pursued and extra fees added.

Do I still continue to ignore as advised earlier?

Thanks.

Look, if AS Parking want to waste their time instructing totally powerless debt collectors, let them do it

You just ignore this rubbish and the debt crawlers
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