A Flat Rate of Tax Relief?

zagfles

Triumph13 wrote: »

Good luck coming up with a workable definition of salary sacrifice as distinct from ordinary employer's contributions.

How about the definition they used when they changed the taxation of sal sac for most benefits (but not pensions) last year

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/income-tax-limitation-of-salary-sacrifice/income-tax-limitation-of-salary-sacrifice

MK62

Well, you don't necessarily have to disallow it as such, you could do something like limiting the level of employer's NI-free contributions to the employee's pension....say to 10% of the employee's salary, or a fixed amount, such as say £4000 (or a fixed percentage of the Annual Allowance).....

You could also do something similar for employee contributions.....but my guess is that you probably wouldn't have to.......

I'm sure there are other alternatives too, to limit salary sacrifice NI avoidance....it doesn't necessarily have to be gone in one fell swoop either, you could slowly squeeze it out, which might be a preferable option anyway.....

Mistermeaner

Whatever happens government can't continue to go after dc whilst leaving db alone - too many of us to ignore

Sterlingtimes

kidmugsy wrote: »

That must surely be for the chop in the next few years.

Surely, socialist children would donate their inheritance from their parents to the Revenue & Customs just as socialist parents would never have their children privately educated.

robin61

I can't see them reducing the lifetime allowance. Not after they raised it a bit recently.
I bet they will go after the annual allowance.
Probably they will reduce the level at which the taper kicks in. I wouldn't be surprised to see that go down quite a bit £125k or maybe even £100k. They might also reduce the annual allowance from £40k to maybe £35k or even £30k.
I can't see them introducing a flat rate of tax relief. Both of the above will be quicker to implement and probably they will get fewer issues getting it passed.

Thrugelmir

robin61 wrote: »

They might also reduce the annual allowance from £40k to maybe £35k or even £30k.

The £40k limit was set at 6th April 2014.

With inflation running at recent levels. AA should be around £43,400 next tax tax year. Inflation is a chancellors stealth tax. Doing nothing has a positive impact for the Treasury.

Likewise QE is having a positive effect on portfolio values resulting in an increased tax take.

si2winit

Question, if the annual allowance is reduced how would this affect payers tax when a DC scheme. As an example my company pay 53% contributions for DC members. If the AA drops, who would pay the extra tax? Company or employee?

si2winit

si2winit wrote: »

Question, if the annual allowance is reduced how would this affect payers tax when a DC scheme. As an example my company pay 53% contributions for DC members. If the AA drops, who would pay the extra tax? Company or employee?

Can’t edit off my phone. I meant DB! Apologies

Thrugelmir

si2winit wrote: »

Can’t edit off my phone. I meant DB! Apologies

Employee. It's a form of remuneration.

EdSwippet

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Employee. It's a form of remuneration.

Isn't "scheme pays" also an option? [STRIKE]If it is, that would usually be the better choice as it somewhat ameliorates the double-tax that can occur when the pension is finally drawn.[/STRIKE]
ETA: Correction: same double-tax outcome in both cases.

https://adviser.royallondon.com/news/pensions/2016/july/scheme-pays/