We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Fire Safety in New build properties

13»

Comments

  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Forumite
    As I said, if the inspector hadn't signed of inappropriately, the developer would have had to make the changes there and then to get the sign off, so no the freeholder wouldn't have been responsible for these particular repairs if things had happened as they should.
    And if the freeholder had surveyed the property properly then they would have spotted the defects before they bought it. Or if they had got collateral warranties from the developer's professional team then they could claim under those. None of this means the council is legally liable to the current owners.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189
    Eighth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Forumite
    davidmcn wrote: »
    None of this means the council is legally liable to the current owners.
    Likewise the inspection company, who were acting on behalf of the council.
  • martindow
    martindow Posts: 10,806
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Forumite
    davidmcn wrote: »
    And if the freeholder had surveyed the property properly then they would have spotted the defects before they bought it.
    Surely steelwork that was not fireproofed would not be picked up by any survey no matter how diligently performed as it would not be possible to see it. Surveyors cannot survey hidden defects unless it manifests in some visible way.



    To me the problem is trusting construction companies to sign off their own work. Building inspectors should be from the local authority and not prone to pressure from their employers to turn a blind eye.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189
    Eighth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Forumite
    Isn't that exactly why Building Control sign-off is the final stage after regular inspections during the progress of the project, with elements inspected before being hidden?

    And the construction company didn't sign their own work off - they used a local authority-approved independent inspection company. Which is not only perfectly allowable, but fairly standard practice. Think of it as the LA outsourcing inspection.
  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Forumite
    martindow wrote: »
    Surely steelwork that was not fireproofed would not be picked up by any survey no matter how diligently performed as it would not be possible to see it. Surveyors cannot survey hidden defects unless it manifests in some visible way.
    Which is why you'd also get collateral warranties.
  • dimbo61
    dimbo61 Posts: 13,727
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Forumite
    Well I did read about Lawerence House in Manchester and that fact the many home owners have paid out hundreds of thousands of pounds for unsafe properties and have been moved out of the unsafe building.
    However I started this thread about current fire safety in New build homes.
    New legislation comes into effect next week for HMO,s and Fire safety is one of the many standards I am trying to understand
This discussion has been closed.
★ ★ ★ Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 355.7K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.9K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 456.1K Spending & Discounts
  • 248.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 605.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 179K Life & Family
  • 263.7K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.