Are Zero Fizzy Drinks Healthy?

Stoke

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

That’s not actually true though. Nutrition does matter. A reasonable balanced diet will cover most requirements without you having to put too much thought in, but deficiencies can cause real health problems.

You could eat 2000kcal of bacon and chocolate every day, you’d be getting the right amount of calories but your nutrition would be awful and you’d suffer for it eventually. I’m vegan, and I have to make sure I get my B12 artificially because it isn’t in any of the ‘natural’ food I eat and without it I would become ill eventually.

There’s so much more to health than what you weigh!

I've said already about nutrition.

Stoke

littlerock wrote: »

I was getting really bad headaches a few years back, lie migraines and could not get to the bottom of it. A friend suggested I try cutting out artificial sweeteners and the headaches stopped. Just like that. It took me a little while longer to track down the actual culprit - aspartame. Particularly as it even turns up in Medicines e.g. Lemsip

Now I avoid artificial sweeteners altogether. So it was more than a bit depressing when the sugar tax led to artificial sweeteners being ssubstitued for sugar in many soft drinks and cordials, for example the new formula SanPellegrino drink now contains "sweeteners of natural origin" in place of sugar. Can I really trust such an all encompassing statement.?

So can anyone recommend any sugar based fizzy drinks and coridals for people like me who avoid artificial sweeteners because some at least have nasty side effects on us.

There are lots of drinks that don't use aspartame. Just look for them

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4637309/aspartame-free-drinks

Red-Squirrel_2

Stoke wrote: »

I've said already about nutrition.

Then I don’t understand why you are going on about calories being all that matters!

Stoke

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

Then I don’t understand why you are going on about calories being all that matters!

To condense my posts into something super simple:

If you're having a nutritionally balanced diet (inc all the vitamins, food groups etc), then the only thing that actually matters is the calories.....


*With the dozens and dozens of exceptions to that rule i.e. medical, allergies, lifestyle (vegan, vegeterian).....

What I was trying to do was debunk the myth that there's 'real' food, or 'good' food or 'nutritional' food. There's just food..... and there's calories, and there's nutrition. If you're getting the correct balance of nutrition, then the perceived quality of the food actually doesn't matter. Calories is the only thing in this case that does..... too many you get fat, too few you lose weight

QuackQuackOops

Stoke wrote: »

You're right its not, but I think what Red-Squirrel was doing is similar to what I was doing (albeit indirectly), which is basically highlighting this idea that sticking words like 'natural' and 'good' in front of terms doesn't necessarily strengthen your argument. Kentucky Fried Chicken.....Natural Fried Chicken.

It all comes back to the number..... I promise

KFC is not "Natural Fried Chicken".....far from it. Natural is always better than artificial. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to work that one out.

The question was about fizzy drinks.
Fizzy drinks are 'better' with sugar than they are with artificial sweeteners.

QuackQuackOops

littlerock wrote: »

I was getting really bad headaches a few years back, lie migraines and could not get to the bottom of it. A friend suggested I try cutting out artificial sweeteners and the headaches stopped. Just like that. It took me a little while longer to track down the actual culprit - aspartame. Particularly as it even turns up in Medicines e.g. Lemsip

Now I avoid artificial sweeteners altogether. So it was more than a bit depressing when the sugar tax led to artificial sweeteners being ssubstitued for sugar in many soft drinks and cordials, for example the new formula SanPellegrino drink now contains "sweeteners of natural origin" in place of sugar. Can I really trust such an all encompassing statement.?

So can anyone recommend any sugar based fizzy drinks and coridals for people like me who avoid artificial sweeteners because some at least have nasty side effects on us.

Sainsburys High Juice is still sugar only.

QuackQuackOops

Stoke wrote: »

To condense my posts into something super simple:

If you're having a nutritionally balanced diet (inc all the vitamins, food groups etc), then the only thing that actually matters is the calories.....


*With the dozens and dozens of exceptions to that rule i.e. medical, allergies, lifestyle (vegan, vegeterian).....

What I was trying to do was debunk the myth that there's 'real' food, or 'good' food or 'nutritional' food. There's just food..... and there's calories, and there's nutrition. If you're getting the correct balance of nutrition, then the perceived quality of the food actually doesn't matter. Calories is the only thing in this case that does..... too many you get fat, too few you lose weight

"Theres just food"??? That statement must mean something completely different to you than it does me.

Chinese take away is not food.
KFC is not food
MCDs is not food.
Bread/cakes/buns/pastries are not food.
Etc

Cannot be classed as food one little bit.