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OK whats my next move?

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  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    edited 27 February 2019 at 1:12AM
    sparkyhx wrote: »
    I the guidelines are there and seem fairly clear, why don't the parking companies fix the NTK's to make them POFA compliant? It seems bizarre they deliberately don't follow process and continue to not follow process, surely it would be easy to correct them and remove the defence

    Or am I missing something?

    yes you are missing something , its in their interests to keep it complicated and fool the public and not comply with any laws, especially when parliament didnt make it MANDATORY

    what you are missing is the 18 month debate so far by MP,s on these issues, so read this https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5929244/parking-code-of-practice-bill-what-should-be-in-the-new-code-of-practice and read some of the posts by THE DEEP where he lists the iplayer videos you can watch

    lets assume that before this time next year the new CoP will be in place and let us hope they make POFA2012 mandatory and not discretionary as it is now

    think of it as like the traffic light system on labelling, its been around for 5 years yet Kelloggs are only just starting it from jan 2019 !! (despite Hugh Fearmley Whittingstall taking them to task over it last year) - ie:- its not mandatory, but it SHOULD BE
  • nosferatu1001
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    I would suggest you ensure you inform them of your intention to claim full costs, as they are fuly aware they have no reasonable prospectt of success, and are behaving unreasonably by making this claim.
  • Coupon-mad
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    Some do fix their NTKs. CEL, Britannia and NCP recently have done.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    Its just amazing it took them 6 years to do so
    POFA compliance isnt even hard.
  • sparkyhx
    sparkyhx Posts: 52 Forumite
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    edited 30 November 2018 at 12:03PM
    @nosferatu

    That's the bit that's puzzling me - its not hard - so why do they not fix them and remove that one particular 'get out' for the keeper? From what I can gather - if they follow the correct process there is no argument - responsibility is the keepers. Is it just laziness?

    The keeper is then left arguing other points.
    Ah well, all hail non POFA NTK's

    re-claiming costs.........all done.
    I wonder how many and how frequent SAR's can you put in before you get refused.
  • Castle
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    sparkyhx wrote: »
    I wonder how many and how frequent SAR's can you put in before you get refused.
    Every time you pass an ANPR camera your personal data is being captured and then processed; so you could send a SAR every time you use an ANPR car park.
  • technically, but there is an 'excessive request' clause allowing them to refuse/charge a fee.

    Mind you even proccessing the request and 'refusing' will cost them :-)
  • nosferatu1001
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    You can also argue that, as thi sis a new event with a new data capture, thi sis not excessive - yo are not asking for the same data, but new data. Then if they refuse, complain to the ICO who will cahrge them for investingating them...
  • Castle
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    You can also argue that, as thi sis a new event with a new data capture, thi sis not excessive - yo are not asking for the same data, but new data. Then if they refuse, complain to the ICO who will cahrge them for investingating them...
    Indeed; simply restrict your enquiry to a specific but different month each time. It quite easy to visit 20-30 car parks in a month, each visit meaning a new contract.
  • oh I do like the sound of that, we probably use the same car park weekly
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