Will there really be a crash?

ukcarper

GreatApe wrote: »

It depends what you mean by problem
Price is not a problem it is almost irrelevant
Price for homes is not like price for milk or eggs

It also depends on your aim. If your aim is to maximize ownership it is not the private rental sector holding that back it is the social sector. If private landlords sold 1 million homes all it would do is marginally lower the transitional period of private renting by maybe 1-2 years. If the social sector sold 1 million homes it would permanently increase the level of ownership

So if the aim is to increase home ownership the thing holding it back is primarily the social stock

That's is nonsense playing musically chairs with not solve the problem, the only thing that will is more property. Where I am you need a joint income £64k to buy cheapest 2 bed house with a 90% mortgage.

ukcarper

Malthusian wrote: »

And finally GreatApe has ground you down to argumentum ad populum.

The vast majority of the problems reported in the newspapers and obsessed over by people on debating forums do not exist. This is one of them.

Other problems which don't exist despite almost everybody continually thinking they are a problem for the past 10,000 years include:

• young people spending lots of time doing something which older people don't do
• declining moral standards
• inequality
• imminent apocalypse

The fact that "almost everybody" (i.e. the small subset of people who read and obsess over newspapers) thinks something is a problem does not create a problem.


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In that case there are no problems.

triathlon

lookstraightahead wrote: »

Also, I think lots of people hide incompetencies behind wealth. I'm married to an academic and he fascinates me - my first marriage was to a wealthy man who had real inferiority issues, always comparing himself against the next wealthy person to measure success. I think of vanity fair and what was important in the 1800s doesn't carry the same weight now. Very interesting how we judge ourselves and others.

All the dross you posted, and then in the end you openly admit you went looking for rich men, rich men I might add that had flaws in your eyes and you were not even attracted to them, point proven, thanks.
Women just like powerful property owning men, it makes them feel safe for a start

GreatApe

ukcarper wrote: »

That's is nonsense playing musically chairs with not solve the problem, the only thing that will is more property. Where I am you need a joint income £64k to buy cheapest 2 bed house with a 90% mortgage.

More property will help marginally but what is needed (if your aim is to increase ownership) is for the social stock to shrink.

GreatApe

ukcarper wrote: »

In that case there are no problems.

It depends what you define as problems

If you define unmet needs as a problem we probably have little to no problems

If you define unmet wants as a problem then we will always have problems because wants can never be filled fill one and two more pop up

Regarding housing needs its more or less no problem but if you go to housing wants then well we want bigger better and more homes this has always been true and probably always will be true.

The biggest real problem in the UK and other developed nations is dysfunctions and dysfunctional families primarily due to drugs alcohol and mental health issues.

lookstraightahead

triathlon wrote: »

All the dross you posted, and then in the end you openly admit you went looking for rich men, rich men I might add that had flaws in your eyes and you were not even attracted to them, point proven, thanks.
Women just like powerful property owning men, it makes them feel safe for a start

No I met him at school. You are funny triathlon. You just make it up as you go along. I hope you are just trolling, for your own sake.

ukcarper

GreatApe wrote: »

It depends what you define as problems

If you define unmet needs as a problem we probably have little to no problems

If you define unmet wants as a problem then we will always have problems because wants can never be filled fill one and two more pop up

Regarding housing needs its more or less no problem but if you go to housing wants then well we want bigger better and more homes this has always been true and probably always will be true.

The biggest real problem in the UK and other developed nations is dysfunctions and dysfunctional families primarily due to drugs alcohol and mental health issues.

So people spending months in B&Bs or sofa surfin is unmet wants. I consider it a problem when to people earning above averages earnings can't buy a 2 bed house and the only alternative is to rent a property with no long term security.

GreatApe

ukcarper wrote: »

So people spending months in B&Bs or sofa surfin as unmet wants.

No human system can be set up to be 100% efficient

And like street sleepers are no indication of housing need but of drug abuse, I would question if temporary B&Bs or sofa surfin is an indication of housing need or other problems

ukcarper

GreatApe wrote: »

More property will help marginally but what is needed (if your aim is to increase ownership) is for the social stock to shrink.

So where are people in social stock going to go.

ukcarper

GreatApe wrote: »

No human system can be set up to be 100% efficient

And like street sleepers are no indication of housing need but of drug abuse, I would question if temporary B&Bs or sofa surfin is an indication of housing need or other problems

You would but that doesn't mean it is.