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Holiday pay included in wages

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  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
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    So an update - literally after waiting since my last post on this thread:


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    As you’re aware as a bank work for XXXX you currently receive 10.17% additional payment on hours worked. This is based on 20 days statutory annual leave entitlement.


    There are though no current plans to uplift the value of this allowance.




    It's great that actually answering the question of why it's like and, how this complies with the law and how they've come to the value (and ignored AfC entitlement) isn't answered...


    To be honest it's about the principle of it now!


    I'm going to phone a colleague at another trust and ask them what they do.
  • jobbingmusician
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    edited 4 October 2018 at 4:49PM
    Surely statutory leave entitlement is 28 days, in any case? Yes, I know this includes BH, but BH don't simply disappear for bank staff, whether they are worked or not..............


    (Unless this is your part time proportion of the full time 28 days??? In which case how do they know what your leave entitlement is, as your earlier post suggests that your hours actually vary. Are you on annualised hours or something?)
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  • Comms69
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    Surely statutory leave entitlement is 28 days, in any case? Yes, I know this includes BH, but BH don't simply disappear for bank staff, whether they are worked or not..............


    (Unless this is your part time proportion of the full time 28 days??? In which case how do they know what your leave entitlement is, as your earlier post suggests that your hours actually vary. Are you on annualised hours or something?)

    Exactly, and that’s excluding the debate I could have around enhanced leave.

    No annualised hours; pretty much standard zero hours; but at a decent rate of pay.

    I suspect they read somewhere that statutory is 4 weeks + bank holidays and just excluded that from their calculation.

    Still ridiculous when employing 5,000+ staff
  • jobbingmusician
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    Idiots! :D:D
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  • General_Grant
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    Any fellow Bank workers members of a Union? Or are you?

    If the Union gets involved I would hope this could be sorted out correctly and every Bank worker will receive their correct holiday entitlement.
  • Comms69
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    Any fellow Bank workers members of a Union? Or are you?

    If the Union gets involved I would hope this could be sorted out correctly and every Bank worker will receive their correct holiday entitlement.



    I'm sure there are union members on the bank; think there's 7-800 people on there, though many only doing a few shifts.


    I'm not in a union anymore, but there is a staffside rep I can contact if needed. I was actually going to rejoin the union, but hadn't got around to it as the work had been temporary.


    The issue ofcourse is I'm on zero hours, so pushing this now would be unwise.


    It's not about the money - 2% is hardly going to break the bank, even 5% if I can successfully argue that bank workers are still subject to AfC regulations isn't really the point.


    The issue is that HR will not listen to what is staring them in the face. (I was right about the whole 4 weeks + BHs logic they might use).


    I'd rather get the benefit of highlighting a potential issue to one of the higher ups, than MCOLing it for the sake of £200.
  • getmore4less
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    Comms69 wrote: »
    So an update - literally after waiting since my last post on this thread:


    Reply:


    As you’re aware as a bank work for XXXX you currently receive 10.17% additional payment on hours worked. This is based on 20 days statutory annual leave entitlement.


    There are though no current plans to uplift the value of this allowance.




    It's great that actually answering the question of why it's like and, how this complies with the law and how they've come to the value (and ignored AfC entitlement) isn't answered...


    To be honest it's about the principle of it now!


    I'm going to phone a colleague at another trust and ask them what they do.


    Woops, 20 days statutory!

    someone in HR for that trust has a lot of explaining to do why that is used.


    10.17% is also wrong for 20 days stat.
  • Comms69
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    Woops, 20 days statutory!

    someone in HR for that trust has a lot of explaining to do why that is used.


    10.17% is also wrong for 20 days stat.

    Good point, I didn’t do the maths.

    And yes; will escalate it as there’s clearly a big mistake
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