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  • gardner1
    gardner1 Posts: 3,154 Forumite
    penge wrote: »
    I have a friend who has been squatting for a while in a commercial premises. Today the owner sent men to change the doors and locks while he is still inside the building. Is this legal? He has not been issued with an Ipo yet.

    ODWASNM........he broke in and now he's been chucked out:j and the guys who changed the locks:beer:
  • AnotherJoe
    AnotherJoe Posts: 19,622 Forumite
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    penge wrote: »
    I have a friend who has been squatting for a while in a commercial premises. Today the owner sent men to change the doors and locks while he is still inside the building. Is this legal? He has not been issued with an Ipo yet.
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    What's the difference? If he broke in he can surely break out and whilst squatters do have rights I doubt they extend to the original doors and locks having to be retained so it's the same property as before with arbitrarily different locks. Is he going to complain about the money he spent at Timpson getting new keys cut?
  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
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    penge wrote: »
    Pure ignorance. You obviously live on sugar candy Mountain. You are part of the problem and you don't even know it
    No the problem is people expecting to use someone else's property, without permission, for free.


    That's not to say that people shouldn't be supported where appropriate.
  • maisie_cat
    maisie_cat Posts: 2,138 Forumite
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    penge wrote: »
    Pure ignorance. You obviously live on sugar candy Mountain. You are part of the problem and you don't even know it
    I would appreciate it if you explain what you mean
  • Cakeguts
    Cakeguts Posts: 7,627 Forumite
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    penge wrote: »
    Pure ignorance. You obviously live on sugar candy Mountain. You are part of the problem and you don't even know it


    No I come from a family who refused to move to London from the North West because it was too expensive to live there. That was in the 1960s it hasn't changed. What has changed is that some people seem to think that they can have whatever they want. So they can't afford to live in London just like my family in the 60s but unlike my family in the 60s they don't move to an area that they can afford to live in. Not being able to live in one of the most expensive cities in the world doesn't give you the right to take over someone else's property.



    I would have much more sympathy for this person if they were squatting in an area of the country where you can live more cheaply. I have no sympathy for someone who can quite happily break into a property belonging to someone else but can't move out of London. There are lots of places where I cannot afford to live but I don't break the law and selfishly put other people out to get what I want which is what this person had done.
  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
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    Cakeguts wrote: »
    No I come from a family who refused to move to London from the North West because it was too expensive to live there. That was in the 1960s it hasn't changed. What has changed is that some people seem to think that they can have whatever they want. So they can't afford to live in London just like my family in the 60s but unlike my family in the 60s they don't move to an area that they can afford to live in. Not being able to live in one of the most expensive cities in the world doesn't give you the right to take over someone else's property.



    I would have much more sympathy for this person if they were squatting in an area of the country where you can live more cheaply. I have no sympathy for someone who can quite happily break into a property belonging to someone else but can't move out of London. There are lots of places where I cannot afford to live but I don't break the law and selfishly put other people out to get what I want which is what this person had done.



    + why would you want to leave the north west - it's lovely up here!
  • One day when these squatters actually get their own property, I assume they wouldn't mind others breaking in and living in their house while they're away for a week?
  • Your friend sounds like they're far too concerned about legality and not enough about morality and ethics.
  • Grezz24
    Grezz24 Posts: 234 Forumite
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    penge wrote: »
    Pure ignorance. You obviously live on sugar candy Mountain. You are part of the problem and you don't even know it

    Id say the ignorance is coming from you and your squatter friend. Expecting people to give you a place to live for free, no bills or rental money paid and they trash the place when being forced to leave when the owner rightfully wants the property back!

    Id suggest they get a job / move somewhere else / quit being a pain in the proverbial and then the real problem will disappear.

    If you are so worried about your friend, invite them round to live with you.
  • ProDave
    ProDave Posts: 3,785 Forumite
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    Being a commercial premesis, it will have fire escape doors with "push to open" locks, so there is no way he is "locked in" or trapped in the property.
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