GDPR & how it relates to DVLA

GranAnn

Under the new General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) legislation should the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency still be allowed to sell vehicle owner information to car park enforcement firms?

Surely the recent introduction of GDPR laws were meant to have made this illegal.

It would certainly stop these cowboy parking firms from issuing their outrageous parking charge invoices by post if they couldn't find out who the registered keeper was!

beamerguy

GranAnn wrote: »

Under the new General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) legislation should the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency still be allowed to sell vehicle owner information to car park enforcement firms?

Surely the recent introduction of GDPR laws were meant to have made this illegal.

It would certainly stop these cowboy parking firms from issuing their outrageous parking charge invoices by post if they couldn't find out who the registered keeper was!

We know but they are allowed to by belonging to a
ATA ....... what would the DVLA do if they lost the scam
money ????

nosferatu1001

1) Legally they arent selling it
2) Theyre of course allowed to release this data. Seriously, can we not have more of these threads? GPDR DOES NOT HELP ,THEY DO NOT USE CONSENT TO GIVE OUT DATA.

beamerguy

nosferatu1001 wrote: »

1) Legally they arent selling it

True, they are making private data available to those who
want to buy it and supply known scammers at £2.50 a pop

Ralph-y

I little bit of reading and watching for yo to better understand this national scam







https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2018-02-02/debates/CC84AF5E-AC6E-4E14-81B1-066E6A892807/Parking(CodeOfPractice)Bill

and slightly longer, the committee stage

https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/d5550515-cce9-4185-83ec-754dadb7524a

''Rip-offs from car park Cowboys must stop''; unfair treatment; signage deliberately confusing to ensure a PCN is issued; ''years of abuse by rogue parking companies''; bloodsuckers; ''the current system of regulation is hopeless, like putting Dracula in charge of the blood-bank''; extortionate fines; rogue operators; ''sense of injustice''; unfair charges and notices; wilfully misleading; signage is a deliberate act to deceive or mislead; ''confusing signs are often deliberate, to trap innocent drivers''; unreasonable; a curse; harassing; operating in a disgusting way; appeals service is no guarantee of a fair hearing; loathed; outrageous scam; dodgy practice; outrageous abuse; unscrupulous practices; ''the British Parking Association is as much use as a multi-storey car park in the Gobi desert''; and finally, by way of unanimous conclusion: ''we need to crack down on these rogue companies. They are an absolute disgrace to this country. Ordinary motorists and ordinary residents should not have to put up with this''.

These are the exact words used, so you should quote them to your MP in a complaint and ask him/her to contact Sir Greg Knight MP if he wants further information about this scam.

and some quotes from the committe stage

"The other area is hospital parking, and I want to single out one company for some pretty shady practices. That is ParkingEye"
" is very clear to me that there is collusion between parking companies and solicitors’ firms—so-called roboclaims companies. "
"They are often set up adjacently and involve the same directors and personnel. Incidentally, the same personnel get involved in the so-called appeals bodies."
"Essentially, it is a money-making enterprise that takes advantage of motorists up and down the country. They operate in a very business-like fashion, which is why I call them roboclaims companies."
"The companies are jamming up parts of our legal system."
“I now pretty much know exactly how the parking companies and in particular the IPC have been running this scam for the past 5 years. Basically both of the appeals processes are a complete and utter sham, (and part of that sham is Gladstones Solicitors itself)”
"The appeals process at Excel/VCS is run by a team of minimum wage office workers with no legal knowledge or experience whatsoever,"
" It is claimed by the head of the appeals service (retired Judge Bryn Holloway) that this is a completely independent fair process, it is not”
"The letter mentions two individuals—Will Hurley and Bryn Holloway—and concludes this is a typical example of the clear collusion between the IPC, their members and the IAS"
"what we can do about roboclaims companies and solicitors firms that profit, often in shady ways"
" the very large amounts of money that can be involved in such scams—a company called Smart Parking was involved in one such scam on my patch"
"tightening up the rules regarding the unfair use of automatic number plate recognition" "BW Legal, regularly issues 10,000 county court judgments a month, and is known to have issued 28,000 in one month"
"They are jamming up our court system, and are often totally unjustified."
" because the lifeblood of trying to extort money from people is having access to their details."

All from Parking (Code of Practice) Bill (First sitting) Hansard





Ralph:cool:

KeithP

The DVLA has the legal right, under Regulation 27 of the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations 2002 to: "make any particulars contained in the register available for use by any person who can show to the satisfaction of the Secretary of State that he has reasonable cause for wanting the particulars to be made available to him".

That 'reasonable cause' might be to ask the registered keeper for the name of the driver at the time of the incident.

Johno100

KeithP wrote: »

The DVLA has the legal right, under Regulation 27 of the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations 2002 to: "make any particulars contained in the register available for use by any person who can show to the satisfaction of the Secretary of State that he has reasonable cause for wanting the particulars to be made available to him".

That 'reasonable cause' might be to ask the registered keeper for the name of the driver at the time of the incident.

Almost, the DVLA have a legal responsibility to make the information available in accordance with the above legislation. They are an Executive Agency of the government tasked with such matters and can't pick and choose if or how they do it.

If the law needs changing then that is down to the politicians in Westminster and not the civil servants in Cardiff.

Coupon-mad

We don't need another new thread, exactly the same as the other GDPR ones.

The main one is on page one right now! Please just read it first, all 5 pages, then if you have something new to add, reply there and let this one die.