Porch with a WC

magn8p

I live in a 1960s Semi which doesn't have a downstairs loo. Hence, I am thinking of getting a porch built with a WC.

However, I understand that the max area of a porch that can be constructed without a planning permission is 3 sq.mts.

So, my question is, has anyone constructed a porch with WC in 3 sq.mts space? If so, please can you share you plans - I m interested in both front and side entry porches.

Thanks in advance.

Doozergirl

Why not apply for Planning Permission instead of shoehorning it in?

You probably don't need much more than 3 square metres, but the walls themselves will eat into the available space.

Silvertabby

Is that your only option? Personally, I really hate houses which have a cloakroom in the hallway, right next to the front door, and your idea sounds even worse than that !

However, if it's what you really want, and you don't intend to move from that house, then where there's a will there's a way.....

magn8p

Thanks for that! I have only just started looking into the dimensions and I think you are right - cloak room internally needs to be at least 1200mm(depth) x 800mm(width).

I guess with that in mind, the porch needs to be at least 2500mm wide internally making the internal area 3 sq mts. Add external walls to that, it will increase by another 0.08 sq.mts. Assuming typical width of an external wall is 200mm - please correct if I am wrong.

I guess going through the planning permission route makes more sense as I believe there is room for as much as 2000mm(depth) x 2600mm(width). So, going to an architect for basic planning and drawing the first step?

Thanks again!

Doozergirl wrote: »

Why not apply for Planning Permission instead of shoehorning it in?

You probably don't need much more than 3 square metres, but the walls themselves will eat into the available space.

System

Just apply for planning permission for something actually useful - the cost implication of going for planning is minimal and you end up with what you actually want.
It's a real bug bear of mine when people shoehorn and compromise the usefulness of additions to fit into permitted development criteria - design what you want and then if it meets pd, great, and if it doesn't apply for pp - a couple of hundred quid in local authority fees will pay for itself

magn8p

Appreciate sharing your opinion but with that in your mind, you would hate all the new builds which mostly have a cloakroom built next to a hallway or some victorian houses with cloakroom retro fitted under stairs.

I have thought about an extension behind the house but that would cost a lot more and right now we only need an extra loo and not extra living space.

Silvertabby wrote: »

Is that your only option? Personally, I really hate houses which have a cloakroom in the hallway, right next to the front door, and your idea sounds even worse than that !

However, if it's what you really want, and you don't intend to move from that house, then where there's a will there's a way.....

Silvertabby

magn8p wrote: »

Appreciate sharing your opinion but with that in your mind, you would hate all the new builds which mostly have a cloakroom built next to a hallway or some victorian houses with cloakroom retro fitted under stairs.

I have thought about an extension behind the house but that would cost a lot more and right now we only need an extra loo and not extra living space.

We bought our house as a new build, and the cloakroom is under the stairs - but accessed from the utility room. Perfect for when I'm 'caught short' when gardening, as I don't track mud through half the house!

Under the stairs with access from half way down the hall would be a compromise if there's no other option - it's just having the loo right next to the front door that I really couldn't live with.

Ant555

I dont have any plans to share but just to say that my in-laws had a mini porch extension and downstairs loo built two years ago.

The loo is very cosy but as they are Octogenarians and not in the best of health, a trip upstairs simply would take too long.

Very compact - we thought it would be far too small but it does actually work quite well for them. Existing loo is upstairs rear of the house so the soil pipe for the new one had to be dug into the ground down the side of the house with what looks like inspection points.

VfM4meplse

My downstairs cloakroom is a little too close to my kitchen for comfort - hence I don't use it. Guests are welcome though.

samee

hi I m looking for similar thing to do ..just came across your post ..has anyone done this
do I need planning permission or can I built it under permitted development

Apodemus

Silvertabby wrote: »

... Perfect for when I'm 'caught short' when gardening...

I thought that was what the compost heap was for?!