Working extra hours (salaried)

northwest1965

Slightly similar to another thread but I didn't want to hijack

My husband works a set of 4 x 12 hour shifts followed by 4 days off.

It is 7am-7pm. However the company have now said that at 6.45am and 6.45pm there will be 2 mandatory meetings. Given the below from a contract, should he take the extra time work for this off? I am imagining its 30 mins per day extra worked.


However a key requirement of the role is to effectively manage your own working time to balance the demands of the job and work life balance. As such it is expected that you should manage your hours of work around peaks and troughs of the workload

[Deleted User]

Depends on company policy. I used to get toil, others get overtime but most expect the extra hours as part of a contract clause.

JReacher1

He is working at 6:45pm anyway so it sounds like he needs to be in work at 6:45am instead of 7am

getmore4less

What is the background to these meetings, what problem are they going to solve for the business that is worth taking people away from real work.

TELLIT01

For salaried staff there is often an expectation that some additional unpaid worktime will be required. As has been said, it's actually 15 minutes per day not 30 as he will be at work for the one at the end of the shift.
If there are transport problems making his attendance difficult he needs to raise it as soon as possible.

northwest1965

The 6.45pm will not finish at 7pm, 7.15 is the expected time

sangie595

northwest1965 wrote: »

Slightly similar to another thread but I didn't want to hijack

My husband works a set of 4 x 12 hour shifts followed by 4 days off.

It is 7am-7pm. However the company have now said that at 6.45am and 6.45pm there will be 2 mandatory meetings. Given the below from a contract, should he take the extra time work for this off? I am imagining its 30 mins per day extra worked.


However a key requirement of the role is to effectively manage your own working time to balance the demands of the job and work life balance. As such it is expected that you should manage your hours of work around peaks and troughs of the workload

That clause won't protect him. That's just a standard "pretty and meaningless statement".

Legally, it is simple. If the "extra time" doesn't take him below the minimum wage, then there's nothing he can do. Past that, it's really down to company policy and discretion. Or union involvement obviously.

Comms69

It sounds like it might be for handovers between shifts?


It's not a huge amount of time. I'd often stay 30 minutes late when working on projects. My manager would occasionally tell me to have a longer lunch break, but I wouldn't have expected it.

TELLIT01

northwest1965 wrote: »

The 6.45pm will not finish at 7pm, 7.15 is the expected time

Thanks for the clarification. Has there been any explanation of the reason for introducing the meetings? Hopefully there is a valid reason and not just some new manager who wants meetings for their own sake.

Brynsam

TELLIT01 wrote: »

Has there been any explanation of the reason for introducing the meetings? Hopefully there is a valid reason and not just some new manager who wants meetings for their own sake.

I have a lovely quote about meetings from a marvellous book called 'Running Pension Trustee and other Meetings'. The author hits the nail on the head so well!

'Meetings often provide a useful alternative to work. Their attractions can include free refreshments, a chance to catch up with the gossip, outstanding opportunities for ego tripping...they foster the illusion of activity and achievement , but with no real need to actually do anything more onerous than sit there.'

Maybe run that quote past whoever has decided that bookending the day with meetings is a smart idea?

ElefantEd

sangie595 wrote: »

That clause won't protect him. That's just a standard "pretty and meaningless statement".

Legally, it is simple. If the "extra time" doesn't take him below the minimum wage, then there's nothing he can do. Past that, it's really down to company policy and discretion. Or union involvement obviously.

Does this mean a company is legally able to arbitrarily change a contract of employment to increase hours work without the agreement of the employee, without even paying more?