Privacy and HR

tizerbelle

TELLIT01 wrote: »

It's not your place to decide who 'needs to know' information you have been given in confidence. If the person who told you has asked you to inform others that's a different matter. It's precisely the attitude shown above which get private information out into the public domain.

As I deal with HR, it is absolutely my place to decide who needs to know.

ReadingTim

Perhaps it was mentioned so that your colleagues would know to show sympathy and compassion and perhaps cut you a little slack in the event your mind's not 100% focused on work right now?

Or would you rather someone takes the p!ss about you being off 'cos you were too hungover to come to work, or just fancied a few days off sitting in the sun...?

another_casualty

So sorry to hear this .
The bereavement pay is harsh in this instance imho , and pretty heartless . The o p shouldn't have just been expected to come in after 2 days or lose pay .
That seems wrong .

lindens

OP this is terrible for you
2 days is nothing - if you get sick pay i would advise going to see your GP if you do not feel fit for work

Jox

I'm very sorry for your loss, I hope you can get some time to grieve and have some support around you x

Undervalued

another_casualty wrote: »

So sorry to hear this .
The bereavement pay is harsh in this instance imho , and pretty heartless . The o p shouldn't have just been expected to come in after 2 days or lose pay .
That seems wrong .

Why? Serious question.

Obviously it is a very sad situation for the OP but why should the employer be expected to foot the bill when an employee encounters a domestic issue?

There is no legal entitlement to compassionate leave, although virtually all "decent" employers give at least some. However, even then there can be a huge range of of rules and policies as to how much and under what circumstances.

Comms69

another_casualty wrote: »

So sorry to hear this .
The bereavement pay is harsh in this instance imho , and pretty heartless . The o p shouldn't have just been expected to come in after 2 days or lose pay .
That seems wrong .

Its very generous.


Legally the minimum is zero.

jonnygee2

Obviously it is a very sad situation for the OP but why should the employer be expected to foot the bill when an employee encounters a domestic issue?

Lots of employees would have given longer. I know for a fact mine would have - they have supported several people through difficult situations with generous amounts of bereavement leave.

There are significant benefits for employers of acting ethically and treating employees well - like increased staff retention and morale. A high staff turnover is incredibly costly to most business.

I wouldn't be happy working for the employer described in the OP. It sounds unethical, unfriendly and far less supportive than any employer I have worked for before. If my employer treated a colleague like that, I would look to leave, and that would be my employer's loss.

another_casualty

jonnygee2 wrote: »

Lots of employees would have given longer. I know for a fact mine would have - they have supported several people through difficult situations with generous amounts of bereavement leave.

There are significant benefits for employers of acting ethically and treating employees well - like increased staff retention and morale. A high staff turnover is incredibly costly to most business.

I wouldn't be happy working for the employer described in the OP. It sounds unethical, unfriendly and far less supportive than any employer I have worked for before. If my employer treated a colleague like that, I would look to leave, and that would be my employer's loss.

My thoughts exactly . It's someone's mother. It's not a run of the mill excuse etc
The op is probably still in shock . Flexibility wouldn't hurt . Not good for morale .
I'll leave it there

marliepanda

You described it as wrong, heartless and harsh. It is legal and in fact goes above what they legally have to offer. So it is not wrong.

Is it harsh and heartless? Perhaps in your opinion. If someone is suffering due to this they are welcome to get a fit note from the doctor.

All family situations are different, which is why the law is different. Someone could have been raised by an aunt but in most bereavement policies that would not come under ‘close family’ so may not get any bereavement allowance. Someone could have fell out with their mother long ago but think ‘oh great, I get a week off as a ‘close family member’ has died’

I was very close to my grandad and cared for him in his final years. I got not paid bereavement leave when he died. I was allowed to leave early the day he passed away and I got one day for the funeral. Everything else was up to me to take AL or swap.