Parking Charge Notice in Scotland, foolishly appealed before reading advice

Coupon-mad

Ignore them, there was no appeal in Scotland and CEL have had their fingers burnt there before, being pursued for aggressive business practices AFAIK.

Almost certainly, nothing will happen except tedious 'scary'(!) begging letters, but keep all the paperwork in case that changes in the 5 years a firm has to proceed with a claim in the Scottish court system.

North of the border you're best not appealing a private PCN, so shhhh, next time. Most PPCs never try Scottish court procedures, and can be cancelled by landowner complaint, especially if it's a retail site.

Mp2993

Sorry to dig up an old post but I've just received a Notice to Keeper.
(I live in Scotland & the car park is in Scotland)
The "offence" occurred at the end of May and I received the NTK today (letter is dated 12.09.18)
I have read the newbies faq, but found myself confused after reading the Scotland section.
The private company is a member of the IPC. I haven't appealed as of yet. I am the keeper of car and the letter states that the car was in their car park (ANPR cctv used) for a total of 7 minutes and 11 seconds. Am I right in thinking that as the keeper I have no obligation to name the driver or pay the charge? Can I ignore this or do I have to respond?

Many thanks.

Quentin

There's nothing confusing about ignoring everything except court correspondence!

waamo

Mp2993 wrote: »

Sorry to dig up an old post but I've just received a Notice to Keeper.
(I live in Scotland & the car park is in Scotland)
The "offence" occurred at the end of May and I received the NTK today (letter is dated 12.09.18)
I have read the newbies faq, but found myself confused after reading the Scotland section.
The private company is a member of the IPC. I haven't appealed as of yet. I am the keeper of car and the letter states that the car was in their car park (ANPR cctv used) for a total of 7 minutes and 11 seconds. Am I right in thinking that as the keeper I have no obligation to name the driver or pay the charge? Can I ignore this or do I have to respond?

Many thanks.

Can you tell us what is confusing about the following so that it can be altered?

Q - ''I'm in Scotland/NI, so is the advice different?''

A - IF THE EVENT TOOK PLACE IN SCOTLAND OR NI, WE SUGGEST YOU DO (ALWAYS!) COMPLAIN TO STORE MANAGEMENT IF YOUR PCN IS FROM A RETAIL PARK, BUT DO NOT APPEAL, UNLESS YOUR CAR IS A COMPANY/HIRE/LEASED VEHICLE, IN WHICH CASE, APPEAL AS HIRER/LESSEE (SEE * AT THE FOOT OF THIS POST).

IN SCOTLAND/NI, CERTAINLY COMPLAIN TO THE RETAILERS, BUT IGNORE THE PARKING FIRM UNLESS YOU GET A CLAIM.

IN SCOTLAND THIS IS EXCEEDINGLY RARE, AND DEFENDABLE BY A KEEPER, WHO CURRENTLY HAS A FAR MORE PROTECTED POSITION IN LAW THAN AN ADMITTED DRIVER.

WHEN IGNORING IN SCOTLAND/NI, KEEP ALL LETTERS. DO NOT THROW THEM AWAY, FOR 5 YEARS

Mp2993

Apologies Quentin, it's my first ever PCN and wasn't sure on the laws surrounding them (also didn't see "ignore everything except court correspondence" in that section)

Waamo, it's not confusing as such that I had confused myself by reading different sections and later realising that the laws in Scotland were different (baby brain is messing with my thought process) I think just a simple sentence as kindly pointed out by Quentin would be good.

Thank you both, I shall be ignoring the PCN.

thetrainman20

Good evening all, sorry to dig this one up again.

I've received a letter from ZZPS Ltd, debt collection agency, demanding payment and threatening court action.

Is the best course of action still to ignore these letters or should I be doing something about this?

Many thanks in advance,


C

KeithP

If you haven't done so already, now is the time for you to read post #4 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread.

In summary - ignore debt collectors letters.

beamerguy

thetrainman20 wrote: »

I've received a letter from ZZPS Ltd, debt collection agency, demanding payment and threatening court action.

ZZPS are just idiots. They are NOT empowered to threaten you with court action

But do read up about their lies and rubbish .....
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/74439905#Comment_74439905

Part 1: Liability for misleading and aggressive
practices

Quentin

thetrainman20 wrote: »

Good evening all, sorry to dig this one up again.

I've received a letter from ZZPS Ltd, debt collection agency, demanding payment and threatening court action.

Is the best course of action still to ignore these letters or should I be doing something about this?

Many thanks in advance,


C

All covered in #14 above


No need to post about each debt collector letter you receive!