Can a Store Manager block an employee from an internal position.

sangie595

TELLIT01 wrote: »

I think the OP is trying to indicate that the store manager has told him that even if he is offered the job he won't allow him to move. Therefore the OP is asking what he can do about the situation.
HR seem to have told him that the store manager can't stop him applying for the role, or being offered it. If offered it HR are saying the store manager can't stop his internal transfer either.
If that is the scenario, it would seem that the store manager has no direct involvement in hiring and firing. Even so, I suspect he could make life awkward for a department manager who took the OP on if a word had been said in their ear not to.

Yes to the last bit. But also the OP says that HR is responsible to the manager. Under any circumstances, it isn't HRs job to look after the employees interests. HR can tell the OP that all those things are policy. We all know that employers never break their own policies about fairness, they never do what they want and make it fit the policy. Never.....

sangie595

sangie595 wrote: »

Yes to the last bit. But also the OP says that HR is responsible to the manager. Under any circumstances, it isn't HRs job to look after the employees interests. HR can tell the OP that all those things are policy. We all know that employers never break their own policies about fairness, they never do what they want and make it fit the policy. Never.....

I forgot to add, and HR never help them...

TELLIT01

Sangie, to be honest that's the view I would expect from somebody with strong union leaning. For the most part I don't disagree, but there are HR people out there who play straight down the line and simply work with the policy and the facts. My wife was fortunate enough to come across one when she was being given a terrible time by her line manager. It was only through the support of HR against the manager that my wife avoided a breakdown. The manager was breaking company policy left, right and centre. My wife continued in employment with the company after the manager in question had been convinced, by HR, that it was in their own best interest to resign.

sangie595

I don't disagree that there are some good people in HR. But they are hired to do the employers bidding and to protect the employer. That's their job. In this case, the OP had said that the HR person is managed by the store manager. I suspect that in your wife's case it was part of an HR Department managed through a different hierarchy. That makes it very different.

getmore4less

HR are just part of the pecking order like everyone else

One thing for sure in most case they will try to come across as the nicest people in the company even as they are handing you your p45.

jimbo747

It would be a poor manager if they didn't want to keep their best staff, whether on ability or flexibility.

scd3scd4

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

Of course they would....


and its not for his gain, its for the companies gain.

20 years for the same multi-national oil company. And a few years as a rep............I think I know a little more about my company than maybe a few of the sweat shops you may have worked for.


Its for he's gain don't delude yourself. Lazy management.

scd3scd4

Undervalued wrote: »

Well it is no better and no worse than giving somebody you consider useless a good reference just to get rid of them!

In a way a manager has split loyalties here. His job is to run his department well and to do that he needs reliable staff. There is an obvious temptation to hang on to good staff as that is easier and safer that recruiting and training somebody new.

In an ideal world it wouldn't happen but let's not pretend it doesn't.

I heard that rubbish come out of a mangers mouth once. I looked at him and suggested it was lucky that he's previous managers did not follow the same thought process. Or he would still be on the shop floor on the same grade.

scd3scd4

jimbo747 wrote: »

It would be a poor manager if they didn't want to keep their best staff, whether on ability or flexibility.

Keeping??.......... actively preventing them from progress, which to many people means an increase in pay. That's a poor manager in my books. But then I work for a decent company.


Managers where I work would soon loss support from their team. In 20 years I have out lived dozens.

Takeaway_Addict

scd3scd4 wrote: »

Keeping??.......... actively preventing them from progress, which to many people means an increase in pay. That's a poor manager in my books. But then I work for a decent company.


Managers where I work would soon loss support from their team. In 20 years I have out lived dozens.

Wow you really do have a chip on your shoulder don't you.


You live in your fantasy world and the rest of us will live in the real one....