SSP, Holiday Allowance and a Car Accident

Darksparkle

I'd probably rather lose a few days holiday than most of a week's pay, especially as he's still off now.

Leo2020

D_M_E wrote: »

Cannot comment on SSP but, if you had to get a taxi from A&E to the caravan then your car must not have been driveable since the "dashboard fell off".

Have the police been notified?

Did they attend the incident?

Remember to keep all receipts for things such as taxis and the journey back home and claim for these from the other party's insurance, and ask if you can also claim for loss of holiday - yes, you stayed in the caravan but could not enjoy it - and also loss of income as well.

Yes the police attended. The road was closed off for several hours. The car is a write off.

bspm1 wrote: »

I have read this a few times and I cannot understand what you are saying.

You had an accident, on holiday (or on the way to a holiday) you carried on with the holiday, you got holiday pay for that holiday so why are you after SSP?

Obviously you must make a claim on the Insurance for injuries, that is a given, but I cannot understand why you are expecting your partners Employer to pay him SSP when he was on holiday, getting holiday pay.

Can you please suggest how we could have got home straight away without being in significant pain? You don't just recovery from an accident within a day even if you have no broken bones. We managed to drive a short distance on the following Thursday as he wanted to get use to the hire car. Even this journey was painful for both of us. We might have been able to get a train back that night but it would have been very uncomfortable and painful for us.

He was hoping to swap the SSP for the holiday pay. This was not a holiday in the sense that most people would deem it. Yes we were at a holiday destination but being in pain and struggling to move, get dressed, brush your teeth not being able to enjoy the holiday because we were and still are recovering is not what I would call a holiday.

D_M_E

If you still have the hire car which you drove from Cornwall to Sheffield then make sure it can be returned locally and does not have to be taken back to Cornwall to be returned.

As I said, I think you should be able to include the cost of your holiday in your claim as there was no real holiday because of the accident, not to mention the stress levels of having children complaining about it as well.

Leo2020

D_M_E wrote: »

If you still have the hire car which you drove from Cornwall to Sheffield then make sure it can be returned locally and does not have to be taken back to Cornwall to be returned.

As I said, I think you should be able to include the cost of your holiday in your claim as there was no real holiday because of the accident, not to mention the stress levels of having children complaining about it as well.

Thanks we have already confirmed it does not need to be returned to Wales.

Comms69

Look whether you enjoyed the holiday or not is irrelevant.


What most people are saying is - having a few extra days to take off isn't going to be as useful to you as a full weeks pay. Can you afford to lose £2-300 (or more).


I don't understand why you want SSP!

marliepanda

Okay firstly I do appreciate a car crash is a horrible thing to happen.

However, without a sicknote they only have your word that it caused you to be unable to 'work' (as thats what SSP is for, not whether you could enjoy your holiday)

I had a car crash and luckily got away with only a bruised chest from my seatbelt, some general acheyness and felt a bit rubbish. I was back at work after 2 days, the day I crashed and the day after), so they can affect people differently, my car was also a write off.

Unfortunately from what you have said your husband only suffered with bruised legs and general aches, and you have no sicknote.

Leo2020

marliepanda wrote: »

Okay firstly I do appreciate a car crash is a horrible thing to happen.

However, without a sicknote they only have your word that it caused you to be unable to 'work' (as thats what SSP is for, not whether you could enjoy your holiday)

I had a car crash and luckily got away with only a bruised chest from my seatbelt, some general acheyness and felt a bit rubbish. I was back at work after 2 days, the day I crashed and the day after), so they can affect people differently, my car was also a write off.

Unfortunately from what you have said your husband only suffered with bruised legs and general aches, and you have no sicknote.

He does have a sicknote but it runs from today. He notified them of the accident on the Saturday. Does anyone know how this works? I know you can only self certify for 7 days. So would it be that he gets SSP then holiday and then SSP again? Or does the gap between self certifying and the sick note means it all gets classed as holiday?

Or simply because we actually made it to our destination ill or otherwise mean it is all holiday?

Darksparkle

He'll need to ask his employer their policy.

My employers policy is that I need to call to report I am unfit for work and therefore cancelling my annual leave and actually a sick absence. Id then need to call in each day for a week until I submit a fit note. My employer won't allow a retrospective claim, you'd need to follow the standard sickness policy as you would do if you were due to be in work.

See here regarding giving notice for SSP - https://www.gov.uk/employers-sick-pay/notice-and-fit-notes

w06

whether you made it to your caravan, enjoyed it, or stayed at home are all irrelevant and so don't get hung up on that

Your gp is right they can't back date the sicknote, it seems unlikely that you'll be able to retrospectively self certify if you didn't at the time.

But what a lot of people, me included, don't get is why you'd want to, yes you've had a week of holiday that wasn't really restful, but he was paid holiday pay for that. SSP will be a lot less than holiday pay, given he's now signed off why lose even more money?

pmlindyloo

I honestly don't think anyone is going to be able to answer your question as it is not something covered by law.

If your husband had gone off sick immediately before the holiday then he should have been allowed to take his holiday at a later time (there is some case law about this)

However, you did go on holiday albeit being too poorly to enjoy it. How long was the holiday? One week or two weeks?

All your husband can do is speak to his employer and see what they say.