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Believe Relative's Will Changed Illegally

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  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    edited 21 August 2018 at 11:15AM
    I think you miss the point and my reply to you here is going to be frank. We did used to regularly visit him. My sister, my mother and myself. His mind deteriorated to the extent that he made sexual advances towards my sister, then killed his own cat with a golf club, punched a neighbour and then told my sisters daughter to "f*** off out of his house" during a visit, we tried our best to help him. Do you think this is someone with a sound mind? I'd be grateful if you could post something helpful.

    This is a man who should have been sectioned under the mental health act then, and you should have made frequent follow ups to the doctors in charge of his care if he was killing animals, violent and sexually aggressive.

    Your mother was his main contact for the doctor, the solicitor, how far did she go to get him sectioned, or to get him help. Your description is him getting aggressive, and then you stopping letters and phone calls once he stopped replying, to the extent you didnt know his house was for sale or that he was dead for over a year. That is not what a 'main contact for doctors etc' should be doing to a man who is killing animals and violently attacking people.

    What you say you did is set up a support network with a neighbour' which now, with the added incidents you describe, is incredibly inadequate.

    I only have what you are going on here. And, lets be frank, if thats what you want, if your Aunt wanted her sister to have the memorabilia then should would have willed it to her, not left it to the Uncle. The stuff is gone. The Uncle, as he was clearly so disturbed, may have set it all alight on a bonfire for all you know.

    A frank TL: DR - You did not do enough, by a huge margin, and now the 'stuff' is gone.

    I notice that AGAIN you have not actually stated how long exactly it was between his death and you stopping seeing him...
  • This is a man who should have been sectioned under the mental health act then, and you should have made frequent follow ups to the doctors in charge of his care if he was killing animals, violent and sexually aggressive.

    Your mother was his main contact for the doctor, the solicitor, how far did she go to get him sectioned, or to get him help. Your description is him getting aggressive, and then you stopping letters and phone calls once he stopped replying, to the extent you didnt know his house was for sale or that he was dead for over a year. That is not what a 'main contact for doctors etc' should be doing to a man who is killing animals and violently attacking people.

    What you say you did is set up a support network with a neighbour' which now, with the added incidents you describe, is incredibly inadequate.

    I only have what you are going on here. And, lets be frank, if thats what you want, if your Aunt wanted her sister to have the memorabilia then should would have willed it to her, not left it to the Uncle. The stuff is gone. The Uncle, as he was clearly so disturbed, may have set it all alight on a bonfire for all you know.

    A frank TL: DR - You did not do enough, by a huge margin, and now the 'stuff' is gone.

    I notice that AGAIN you have not actually stated how long exactly it was between his death and you stopping seeing him...

    Marliepanda you seem to know it all don't you? You are not appraised of all of the facts. You are no help to me whatsoever so I'd appreciate it if you would stop contributing to this thread.
  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    Marliepanda you seem to know it all don't you? You are not appraised of all of the facts. You are no help to me whatsoever so I'd appreciate it if you would stop contributing to this thread.

    This is a public forum, I will post if I want to.

    You clearly do not like what I have to say, and again you havent answered how long you left it without any contact. There is a reason you are not offering this information and we all know what it is.

    I am sorry this situation has happened, genuinely, but you did not do enough, and stuff is just stuff...
  • Hi,

    My mother Cora Flynn recently passed away suddenly in June this year 2018. I'm finding it very difficult to comes to terms with, to add insult to injury my sister has applied for a Grant of letter of Representation which has been approved by the Probate court in Brighton. My mother never had a will and I never asked her about her financial circumstances

    There is only my sister and I who are next of kin, since my sister was awarded the Grant she has stopped speaking to me and will not provide any details of my mother's financial affairs. My mother only had a small house £170,000 with a big mortgage £100,000. If she had any life insurance the mortgage would be paid off in full, my sister will not discuss anything with me and in the past she has been dishonest to me in regards to money. Over the years I have helped her out financially several times, I have never asked for the money back and she has never offered to pay back around £4000 I have loaned her.

    My fear is that she will not divulge all the money from the estate and keep the lions share to herself. My mother would never have agreed to this and I fear she will not be able to rest in peace if my sister is dishonest in the handling of her estate. The whole issue is not allowing me to move forward and deal with my intense grief.

    Can anyone advise please? I cannot afford the services of an expensive lawyer, one solicitor told me he would write a letter to my sister for a £500 fee!

    kind Regards
    Darren
  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    Hi,

    My mother Cora Flynn recently passed away suddenly in June this year 2018. I'm finding it very difficult to comes to terms with, to add insult to injury my sister has applied for a Grant of letter of Representation which has been approved by the Probate court in Brighton. My mother never had a will and I never asked her about her financial circumstances

    There is only my sister and I who are next of kin, since my sister was awarded the Grant she has stopped speaking to me and will not provide any details of my mother's financial affairs. My mother only had a small house £170,000 with a big mortgage £100,000. If she had any life insurance the mortgage would be paid off in full, my sister will not discuss anything with me and in the past she has been dishonest to me in regards to money. Over the years I have helped her out financially several times, I have never asked for the money back and she has never offered to pay back around £4000 I have loaned her.

    My fear is that she will not divulge all the money from the estate and keep the lions share to herself. My mother would never have agreed to this and I fear she will not be able to rest in peace if my sister is dishonest in the handling of her estate. The whole issue is not allowing me to move forward and deal with my intense grief.

    Can anyone advise please? I cannot afford the services of an expensive lawyer, one solicitor told me he would write a letter to my sister for a £500 fee!

    kind Regards
    Darren

    You will be best to start your own thread: Go to the main forum and hit the blue button in the top left
  • Darren although I can't actually offer advice for your situation I would suggest you start your own thread (will/should get you more help) and also remove any names, such as your mother's, which people could identify you by.

    I hope you get the advice you need
  • This is a public forum, I will post if I want to.

    You clearly do not like what I have to say, and again you havent answered how long you left it without any contact. There is a reason you are not offering this information and we all know what it is.

    I am sorry this situation has happened, genuinely, but you did not do enough, and stuff is just stuff...

    You are correct that I do not appreciate what you are posting but as I said you know nothing of the facts. Perhaps I have misinterpreted what you have said so far but as I said, it isn't helping. Post if you wish - it is a public forum as you say. But really, some useful advice would be better received than the barbed comments that I have read so far. Thank you.
  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    You are correct that I do not appreciate what you are posting but as I said you know nothing of the facts. Perhaps I have misinterpreted what you have said so far but as I said, it isn't helping. Post if you wish - it is a public forum as you say. But really, some useful advice would be better received than the barbed comments that I have read so far. Thank you.

    But what help do you want? Seriously? There is a will signed by a solicitor and a clerk. It would be difficult to challenge it especially as you have no knowledge of the relationship and the extent of the relationship. What grounds do you have to challenge it, other than 'well when we stopped contact he wasnt of sound mind so he cannot have wanted to do this.' This is a man who for all we know continued to live and survive independently of the care system for X amount of months/years.

    I guess my point would be, the memorabilia is almost certainly gone, whether it was still there when he died or not, so what do you seek to gain from this?
  • But what help do you want? Seriously? There is a will signed by a solicitor and a clerk. It would be difficult to challenge it especially as you have no knowledge of the relationship and the extent of the relationship. What grounds do you have to challenge it, other than 'well when we stopped contact he wasnt of sound mind so he cannot have wanted to do this.' This is a man who for all we know continued to live and survive independently of the care system for X amount of months/years.

    I guess my point would be, the memorabilia is almost certainly gone, whether it was still there when he died or not, so what do you seek to gain from this?

    Well when I started this thread I had not seen the amended will. Also "we" did not stop contact - it was my uncle, despite our efforts. We tried our very best - it was heartbreaking. Yes the memorabilia is gone thank you for reminding me.

    May I ask what YOU seek to gain for trolling this thread?
  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    Well when I started this thread I had not seen the amended will. Also "we" did not stop contact - it was my uncle, despite our efforts. We tried our very best - it was heartbreaking. Yes the memorabilia is gone thank you for reminding me.

    May I ask what YOU seek to gain for trolling this thread?

    By resorting to calling me a troll when all I have done is attempt to give a perspective on this which you will not. You may think I am being harsh by apportioning some blame to you, but thats how I see it.

    If this issue is over and put to bed, then theres nothing more to say.
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