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Subsidence found second day moved in, please help !!!

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  • I can understand your concerns but think you are over reacting. If it is subsidence and it is a very big if, it can be dealt with. 30 years ago we had subsidence, the internal wall between the hall and the study split in half. We had the works, a bore hole excavated,structural engineers reports monthly, loss adjusters, surveyors,the house monitored for movement for 2 years and finally the front of the house was underpinned. Overall it took not far short of 4 years including all the internal redecorating.
    I am relating this story as regarding subsidence things have moved on. There is not years of monitoring or bore hole type excavation, your house will not be unsellable. It is far more common now and dealt with far quicker. A surveyor would instruct a structural engineer if he thinks there is a case and they will do a report. It is not because they think it is serious it is what structural engineers do. Also most houses move a little depending on conditions. Ours was after a long hot summer and we live in a heavily wooded area.
    Whatever you have seen on the outside bricks may just be normal movement after a dry summer and may close up later in the winter. To put your mind at rest contact a structural engineer and get his report. Insurers are not phased by this like they used to be. Our insurers didn't bat an eyelid and paid £35000 for all the work and the underpinning. It doesn't sound like any cracks you have will be of such a serious nature.
  • Can't breath? Can't eat ? Sorry but that is over reacting!! You have had very good advice . Now take it and just wait!!!
  • Sounds like there is a wealth of knowledge on here. Is anybody you know able to get some pictures uuploaded? 2 bricks worth of cracking doesnt sound terrible, indeed most buildings move, perhaps its just movement due to the changes due to the recent weather.
  • Davesnave
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    Filo25 wrote: »
    It doesn't make it more like a serious issue, it just means that if you are specifically worried about and looking for a problem like subsidence rather than a general report on the property then a structural engineer would be the appropriate person to look at it
    This is exactly what a couple of us told the OP earlier, but they seem not to be listening, preferring to imagine that a structural engineer means 'it's worse.'
  • Thanks for all your kind advices and support. I!!!8217;ll try to clam down and wait for survey company!!!8217;s feedback, which might be few weeks.
  • Doozergirl
    Doozergirl Posts: 34,082 Forumite
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    redstarz wrote: »
    Thanks for the feedback.

    I don!!!8217;t mind paying other independent surveyors for the independent survey. However, it seemed they are not interested and all the feedbacks from them were to find structural engineers , which makes more like a serious issue.

    And yes I!!!8217;m trying to reach my GP , not sure when though.

    Thanks again.

    No. I've already told you that you needed a structural engineer. They are a specialist. Just because you're getting one involved doesn't mean that there is a serious issue at all. Firstly, you're raising with everyone as a serious issue already and they're telling you to get proper advice. You don't ask the receptionist at the car garage to do your MOT. Surveyors are not qualified in the same way as a structural engineer. I speak with our structural engineer all the time at work and a lot of the time it's just for a bit of advice or reassurance.

    I have cracks in my loft from movement from nearby trees. We do not have subsidence. Houses do move, they may well be moving a bit more than average this year. You say your house isn't old, but actually, it's been through 40 summers and winters and it will have been moving.

    I hope you took the advice to get a GPs appt. and maybe find a book to read about anxiety and how to prevent it. Libraries have a 'books on prescription' area and the books in ours on anxiety are brilliant and taught me an awful lot. Your mind is running away from what is actually happening at the present moment - which is nothing. :o You're sitting on the internet, reading and your house is doing nothing much at all.
    Everything that is supposed to be in heaven is already here on earth.
  • kipperman
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    Isn't this all a bit odd? Same poster I presume
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5880349/ftb-gleeson-homes
  • That!!!8217;s again for all the advices.

    @Kipperman, I can guarantee you 100% we are not same posters. It!!!8217;s no point of creating another story when being so upset. Thanks for your reply though.
  • Ok, calm down!

    You can think the worse but you need a structural engineer to properly give you the information. Sometimes it's easy to think the worst when it could be simple.

    I had something happen similar but from a selling point of view. All going swimmingly until the buyers had a Homebuyers. They pulled out as the survey had noted 'ground movement and subsidence'. I was devasted, I'd had a survey and nothing picked it up, the house formed part of a grove of a few houses all built in the 90:s that had all been bought and sold multiple times so I was crying all upset why my house, never going to sell it etc etc as our buyers said they couldn't get a mortgage.

    A few weeks later we sold £2k less than the asking price but to someone not in a chain and wanted to move quickly and as we had a purchase going through we accepted. A few weeks ago the people who pulled out actually poster me the homebuyers report which got redirected.

    What the survey actually said was along the lines of the flooring couldn't be moved to inspect the floor therefore we recommend a full structural report to ensure there is no ground movement or subsidence.

    My house didn't have cracks in walls, few cracks in ceiling (bungalow) but I think that's from when we had more loft insulation out down. Sometimes it's easy to start reading into things too much. At the time I was ok inspecting every brick for crack, mortar, etc. I dare say you could probably find small cracks in every house!
  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    kipperman wrote: »
    Isn't this all a bit odd? Same poster I presume.....


    You shouldn't presume; it's against MSE rules to accuse someone of having an AE without evidence.


    People who do this get a warning if it's spotted. I've been there, so I know.
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