The Great Speed Awareness Course Scam

Johno100

Car_54 wrote: »

If pedestrians are not deterred by the risk of death or injury, why would they be deterred by a £100 fine?

Again that isn't the basis we set fines and other punishments on in this country. Sounds like you're advocating the Saudi system of chopping the hand's off thieves.

Car_54 wrote: »

And no, I wasn't aware that jaywalking was a crime in NI. But it will be a sad day when we take NI as our model of a civilised society.

While I'm the first to agree that NI is the most backward part of the British Isles it doesn't mean they're automatically wrong about everything.

Car_54

Johno100 wrote: »

Again that isn't the basis we set fines and other punishments on in this country. Sounds like you're advocating the Saudi system of chopping the hand's off thieves.

That sounds like a very twisted piece of logic.


On what basis do we set fines? The hope of deterence must play a large part.


I'm not in favour of the Saudi system, but I do advocate stiffer penalties for users of spurious apostrophes.;)

motorguy

Joe_Horner wrote: »

Shock news!!! Businesses Aim to Make Money!!!

Shocking revelations emerged today that businesses in the UK are run to make a profit. This comes hot on the heels of an earlier leak that some even "mark up" the products they supply.

Some consumers are outraged that these parasites don't give away their products and services at cost or, preferably, at a loss.

One anonymous, self confessed facist, replied "Scam scam scam cowboy scam ripoff scam!" when asked about the marking up of products, while sources close to another said he believed charging for education of people caught breaking the law was a "MULTI MILLION POUND SCAM" after he was, himself, caught breaking the law.

Meanwhile, the rest of the world waits eagerly for new legislation banning the inappropriate use of the word "scam". A recent U-gove poll found that the majority (52%) of those asked thought that disemboweling with a blunt dictionary would be a fair starting point for sentencing.

This post surprises me because i thought speed cameras and the enforcement of law wasnt actually a business?

motorguy

If you break the law you have to be prepared for the consequences if you get caught.

Car_54

motorguy wrote: »

This post surprises me because i thought speed cameras and the enforcement of law wasnt actually a business?

You're right. But the offer of a course is not enforcement of the law. That would result in a fixed penalty or court appearance.


In any event, enforcement of punishment under the law can indeed be a business, e.g. privatised prisons.

motorguy

Car_54 wrote: »

You're right. But the offer of a course is not enforcement of the law. That would result in a fixed penalty or court appearance.

Correct, however i was querying Joe Horners "Shock news!!! Businesses Aim to Make Money!!!

Shocking revelations emerged today that businesses in the UK are run to make a profit. This comes hot on the heels of an earlier leak that some even "mark up" the products they supply."

Joe_Horner

motorguy wrote: »

Correct, however i was querying Joe Horners "Shock news!!! Businesses Aim to Make Money!!!

Shocking revelations emerged today that businesses in the UK are run to make a profit. This comes hot on the heels of an earlier leak that some even "mark up" the products they supply."

Of course the companies who run the courses are businesses. They're the ones you pay the fees to and they aim to make a profit.

How you get to be referred to them is a separate matter, but you always have the option of not accepting the referral and being dealt with by the not-for-profit justice system.

motorguy

Joe_Horner wrote: »

Of course the companies who run the courses are businesses. They're the ones you pay the fees to and they aim to make a profit.

How you get to be referred to them is a separate matter, but you always have the option of not accepting the referral and being dealt with by the not-for-profit justice system.

Agreed.

I've no particular issue with it. I thought the insinuation of the O/P was that the whole thing was a money making scam as opposed to the companies running it taking a bit of profit.

Joe_Horner

motorguy wrote: »

I thought the insinuation of the O/P was that the whole thing was a money making scam as opposed to the companies running it taking a bit of profit.

I think that is what he meant. I was trying to make the point that profit (and therefore potential for "scam") only comes into the equation after you've (a) broken the law, (b) been caught, and (c) voluntarily decided not to be dealt with by the normal justice system.

Given (a) (b) and (c) above, it's not really surprising that someone makes some money out of you NOT getting points and a fine and, hopefully, learning not to get caught again!

motorguy

Joe_Horner wrote: »

I think that is what he meant. I was trying to make the point that profit (and therefore potential for "scam") only comes into the equation after you've (a) broken the law, (b) been caught, and (c) voluntarily decided not to be dealt with by the normal justice system.

Given (a) (b) and (c) above, it's not really surprising that someone makes some money out of you NOT getting points and a fine and, hopefully, learning not to get caught again!

Indeed.....