Mare's Tail infestation! How best to get rid cheaply?

Debbie_Savard

Prepare some ammonium sulphamate as compost accelerator then accidently spill it on the ground where the mare's tail is growing

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lancelot-Mistral-Ammonium-Sulphamate-1Kg/dp/B004MMOEH2

Blackjack_Davy

Glyphosate works but its not quick it needs a good concentration and several repeat applications.

slinga

Haven't seen any posts on here about the court case in the US about Round UP/Glyphosate.
Any reason?

Camster

Debbie_Savard wrote: »

Prepare some ammonium sulphamate as compost accelerator then accidently spill it on the ground where the mare's tail is growing

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lancelot-Mistral-Ammonium-Sulphamate-1Kg/dp/B004MMOEH2

It works out quite a bit cheaper if you buy in larger quantites. This is the best price I could find:

https://lancelotproducts.co.uk/product/ammonium-sulphamate-crystals/

Davesnave

slinga wrote: »

Haven't seen any posts on here about the court case in the US about Round UP/Glyphosate.
Any reason?

In the UK people took on board a while ago that tests have shown a potential increased risk of developing cancer after coming in contact with certain levels of glyphosate over a prolonged period.

However, over here we may have a clearer understanding of how that risk has been quantified and related to other activities we do, like eating bacon, breathing city air, sitting in the sun or having barbecues, because those are cancer risks at a similar level.

Some countries in the EU still want to ban glyphosate, though. The problem is what to replace it with and the fact that it's useful. Get rid, and food prices will rise very significantly.

slinga

Davesnave wrote: »

In the UK people took on board a while ago that tests have shown a potential increased risk of developing cancer after coming in contact with certain levels of glyphosate over a prolonged period.

However, over here we may have a clearer understanding of how that risk has been quantified and related to other activities we do, like eating bacon, breathing city air, sitting in the sun or having barbecues, because those are cancer risks at a similar level.

Some countries in the EU still want to ban glyphosate, though. The problem is what to replace it with and the fact that it's useful. Get rid, and food prices will rise very significantly.

But why is glyphosate only mentioned in relation to Roundup when there are many other products with similar levels on the shelves.


I'm sure there are people in the UK who say 'I'll stop using Roundup but Weedol or ano will do just as well.

Davesnave

slinga wrote: »

But why is glyphosate only mentioned in relation to Roundup when there are many other products with similar levels on the shelves.


I'm sure there are people in the UK who say 'I'll stop using Roundup but Weedol or ano will do just as well.

Because Monsanto originated glyphosate and used the Round Up name. I suppose, as originators, they are liable for the product under US law.

They don't make any royalty money from the product now, as patenting was so long ago; hence all the generics.

This has some way to go yet. Monsanto will appeal.

malebolge

slinga wrote: »

But why is glyphosate only mentioned in relation to Roundup when there are many other products with similar levels on the shelves.

Basically because the chemical firm that developed it originally, Monsanto, was being sued. They produce Roundup. Their patent ran out ages ago, so glyphosate is now used in a load of products, but Monsanto is the company that has the money if you want to sue for millions. Also, juries do like underdogs when they go up against a billion dollar company... the lawyer involved in the case has said it's just the tip of the iceberg - he's obviously looking to feather his nest very well out of not just this case, but future ones. It's very difficult to prove that something does NOT cause cancer after all.

JimmySea

Unknown to myself, I had mares tail growing on my driveway, which I had tarmacked in the past year. The mares tail is super invasive and had pushed up the tarmac in several places. It doesn't sound like a cheap fix and potentially requires the drive to be ripped up dig out and relayed, to ensure all the mares tail has gone. Should the tarmac driveway company have highlighted this before or whilst laying the drive and told me about the issue? They are unwilling to do anything about the issue as expected with such a costly repair. If legal action is required do I have a leg to stand on?
Many thanks,

Davesnave

You should start your own thread, not hi-jack an old one, as people will often just reply to the first post.

My thoughts: legal action against tarmac crew? Doesn't compute!