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New minimum payment scam?

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  • And yes I did use my PPI refunds to reduce my borrowing to a manageable level only to find that a payment has been increased beyond a normal, reasonable level.
  • foxy-stoat
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    Old_Codger wrote: »
    And yes I did use my PPI refunds to reduce my borrowing to a manageable level only to find that a payment has been increased beyond a normal, reasonable level.

    So your minimum payment should be interest + default fee + 2.5% or 3% of the remaining balance.

    If you miss a payment on a balance transfer with a promotional rate then you would of lost the promotional rate and had to pay interest at the higher rate. Is this what has happened?
  • Old_Codger
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    No balance transfer so my payments should be as you describe plus any default fee, if any.
  • MABLE
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    Old_Codger wrote: »
    Hi, I have a Vanquis card that I make minimum payment plus a bit more every month. This month due to my wifes hospitalisation I overlooked the payment date.
    I have been in a text conversation with an 'advisor' who says she is trying to 'help' me as I was late in paying, only a day and payed extra. During the course of the conversation she informed me that my minimum payment from now on would be £91 a month, its currently £68 and reducing every month as I clear the amount owing.
    Is this even legal ? and will make budgeting every month difficult, allegedly it is to reduce the amount owing more quickly, Barclaycard do the same thing but balance never seems to come down.

    Be like me and set up a dd. I usually pay manually the various amounts owing on my cards but if there is ever an issue with me not being able to I know the dd will kick in.
  • Nasqueron
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    Like it or not, paying more off every month will save you money in the long run as it'll reduce your interest. I appreciate £23 a month can be a lot but think of the hundreds you will save in reduced interest

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

  • foxy-stoat
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    Old_Codger wrote: »
    No balance transfer so my payments should be as you describe plus any default fee, if any.

    So what was your balance on the last statement?

    The late payment fee is £12.
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    MABLE wrote: »
    Be like me and set up a dd. I usually pay manually the various amounts owing on my cards but if there is ever an issue with me not being able to I know the dd will kick in.
    I was just going to suggest this. Life often gets in the way of our best laid plans, so a DD set up to take the minimum payment takes care of the worrying of missing out by one day. You are still then able to make extra payments by internet banking etc
    You're not your * could have not of * Debt not dept *
  • ive been through myself with the same company and i think you may have missed a key point..You say your minimum payment was £63 and now they want you to pay £91. Well i am assuming they have (like they did for me) put youy on a TEMPORARY arrangement. By doing this they calculate how much you would pay over three months (say £189 -63 x3) and want you therefore to "catch up" so by the end of month 3 you would be back to normal and the normal payment schedule should resume.

    A word of advice though - make sure that this amount is affordable. if its not get back in touch with them. dont get sucked into a spiral of recurring charges. I suspect also that like my father, you had the card from when you were working and just kept ticking over the balance with no real pressure to pay back the debt. They are quite happy making their £60 per month in interest and now suddenly you are retired, struggling to make the minimum payment and breaking the cycle. In my fathers case i found out that his near £5000 balance which had rolled over for nearly 15 years was now all charges and he hadnt made a purchase for over 10 years. In his case he was able to prove he had no disposable income (get pension credit) and is currently paying a nomimal £20 a month, interest free and they will get the rest from his estate when he dies!.
    When you know you have a bad credit rating:
    1) When your bank wont even let you go £10 o/d
    2) When you cant even get a payday loan
    3) Your local restaurant asks for payment up-front before serving you lunch:)
  • foxy-stoat
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    You may of been talking about a loan rather than a credit card, as with CC there is no real end date as everytime you buy a packet of crisps or something else the goal post gets pushed back.

    I would see if you have a balance transfer offer on another card and clear this one off and cancel it - their interest is one of the highest out there.
  • SnowTiger
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    Old_Codger wrote: »
    Hi, I have a Vanquis card that I make minimum payment plus a bit more every month. This month due to my wifes hospitalisation I overlooked the payment date.
    I have been in a text conversation with an 'advisor' who says she is trying to 'help' me as I was late in paying, only a day and payed extra. During the course of the conversation she informed me that my minimum payment from now on would be £91 a month, its currently £68 and reducing every month as I clear the amount owing.
    Is this even legal ? and will make budgeting every month difficult, allegedly it is to reduce the amount owing more quickly, Barclaycard do the same thing but balance never seems to come down.

    Vanquis customers should see their minimum payment lower following a recent change to Vanquis' T&Cs. See my post to this thread.

    However, credit card companies are now required to encourage customers who continually make minimum payments to pay off their balance quicker.

    Barclaycard's minimum payment is 2.5% of the outstanding balance.

    One problem with only making minimum payments is that most of it is interest.

    A recent email I received from Vaquis contained this:
    Instalment Plans

    We may in the future offer you the ability to transfer any part of your balance to an Instalment Plan. This is a plan which enables you to repay part of your account balance, at a fixed rate of interest by fixed monthly payments over a set period. We will not transfer any part of your balance to an Instalment Plan without first telling you what the terms of the Instalment Plan would be and you then telling us to make the transfer.

    Please refer to section 'B14', (see also A5, A7, B3, B15)

    Perhaps your balance has been moved to an Installment Plan.

    Vanquis' new T&Cs are here.
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