Universal Credit migration

Osullivan13

Hi
Just wondering if anyone can help.
I have just been forced to move to a new area because of needing an adapted bungalow.
This area is a full Universal Credit area.
Before I moved I was on PIP both enhanced rates
ESA with the severe disabled bit included.
When I moved I was FORCED to move onto UC got told my ESA would stop and I wouldn't get any money so I applied.
I now have universal credit which is drastically reduced by £52 A week.
I thought they did a transition protection guarantee
I have read it here
Who is protected?

Anyone who is moved by DWP/HMRC (called managed migration) to Universal Credit from a legacy benefit after July 2019 without a change of circumstances should not lose out in cash terms according to the commitments given by DWP.

Protection is also extended to cover:

***Individuals who live alone with substantial care needs and receive the Severe Disability Premium will not be moved to Universal Credit until they qualify for transitional protection. Claimants who have already lost this premium as a consequence of moving to UC will be provided with an ongoing payment and an additional payment to cover the period since they moved.***

Wouldbi come under the starred category?
If so why did they force me to move over?
Any help or advice would be great

pmlindyloo

Because you moved to a full service Universal Credit area you were naturally migrated to Universal Credit due to a change of circumstances. There is no transitional protection for natural migration as opposed to managed migration when everyone will move to UC.

However a government announcement in June this year stated that those who were naturally migrated would have their Severe disability premium protected and those who had already 'lost out' would be receive extra money.

But this will not be introduced until the Autumn as part of an amendment to transitional arrangementsfor UC.

You can read about it here:

https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-statement/Commons/2018-06-07/HCWS745

So eventually you will not 'lose out' financially.

Once the new legislation is passed then those with the SDP will not be moved to UC until everyone is moved over ( managed migration)

Unfortunately, like yourself, some people who have already naturally migrated will have to wait until they get the legislation passed.

Osullivan13

- hi
Thanks so much for that link.....interesting

Can I just ask though should this statement not apply to me though. I surely should NOT have been moved over when they knew I had severe disabled premium live on my own and vulnerable

***Individuals who live alone with substantial care needs and receive the Severe Disability Premium will not be moved to Universal Credit until they qualify for transitional protection. Claimants who have already lost this premium as a consequence of moving to UC will be provided with an ongoing payment and an additional payment to cover the period since they moved.***

calcotti

When were you moved across - looks as if you may just have been too soon to benefit from the change in policy.

Osullivan13

Hi
Moved over in February

Osullivan13

It feels very unfair that I am now struggling with my care costs because I was forced to move for my own safety.

poppy12345

Osullivan13 wrote: »

Can I just ask though should this statement not apply to me though. I surely should NOT have been moved over when they knew I had severe disabled premium live on my own and vulnerable

***Individuals who live alone with substantial care needs and receive the Severe Disability Premium will not be moved to Universal Credit until they qualify for transitional protection. Claimants who have already lost this premium as a consequence of moving to UC will be provided with an ongoing payment and an additional payment to cover the period since they moved.***

No because it hasn't come into affect yet. You had to move to UC because the area you moved to was a full UC area.

Osullivan13

Ahhh I see so when it comes into affect will they back date it all or will it just start from when it comes into affect

poppy12345

Osullivan13 wrote: »

Ahhh I see so when it comes into affect will they back date it all or will it just start from when it comes into affect

Please read post #2 again because you were naturally migrated this applies to you. As stated, you will eventually receive extra money but most likely not until the Autumn. How much it will be, i have no idea.

johnminnitt

If I may, a couple more questions about migration
Firstly, I believe managed migration will start July 2019 and run until 2023 - is anything known about the timetable of this, will it be by areas like the initial roll-out, or by types of claimant or something else?

Secondly, re change of circumstances and 'natural' migration - if one receives housing benefit and has to move house I have read that this would only force migration if one moved to a different county so leading to a completely new housing claim. Does anyone know if this is so?

calcotti

johnminnitt wrote: »

Secondly, re change of circumstances and 'natural' migration - if one receives housing benefit and has to move house I have read that this would only force migration if one moved to a different county so leading to a completely new housing claim. Does anyone know if this is so?

Yes, Housing Benefit claim can be maintained if move is within same local authority.