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Most cost effective way of avoiding excessive depreciation
Smellyonion
Posts: 258 Forumite
in Motoring
I originally owned a 2005 mini cooper s which needed everything doing to it. It was also expensive to run, insure etc.
I decided to go for the cheapest brand-new car that I could find based on the monthly PCP deal. It was a c1 at 120 a month with no deposit, no road tax and around 57 mpg. it was 3 years long with a balloon payment of 4.7k at the end. My contract was for 10k miles per anum, I calculated that I would far exceed that with the new job. I also noticed a dent (on the door bigger than the limit for wear and tear) and scrapes on the bumper -
none of which were my doing
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I decided last month, around 1.5 years in to request a settlement figure and not have to pay any additional fees to hand the car back. I borrowed 8k at 3% from Tesco to purchase the car at 6.4k. I borrowed more than I needed to get the 3% rate.
Anyhow, I am now in a position where I have another job that involves 60 miles return everyday. I am not happy using the c1 for my journeys.
I was hopefully looking for an economical diesel motorway cruiser like a Mazda 3 or 3 series. The c1 is worth (according to we buy any car 5.5k) that leaves almost a 900 gap and I am obviously not too happy to take the hit. It's a 66 plate 1.2 flair 23k miles.
What would you do or did I make a poor judgement in buying the car?
I decided to go for the cheapest brand-new car that I could find based on the monthly PCP deal. It was a c1 at 120 a month with no deposit, no road tax and around 57 mpg. it was 3 years long with a balloon payment of 4.7k at the end. My contract was for 10k miles per anum, I calculated that I would far exceed that with the new job. I also noticed a dent (on the door bigger than the limit for wear and tear) and scrapes on the bumper -
none of which were my doing
I decided last month, around 1.5 years in to request a settlement figure and not have to pay any additional fees to hand the car back. I borrowed 8k at 3% from Tesco to purchase the car at 6.4k. I borrowed more than I needed to get the 3% rate.
Anyhow, I am now in a position where I have another job that involves 60 miles return everyday. I am not happy using the c1 for my journeys.
I was hopefully looking for an economical diesel motorway cruiser like a Mazda 3 or 3 series. The c1 is worth (according to we buy any car 5.5k) that leaves almost a 900 gap and I am obviously not too happy to take the hit. It's a 66 plate 1.2 flair 23k miles.
What would you do or did I make a poor judgement in buying the car?
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Depends if you go into London.
There, any diesel pre 2015 will cost you £12 a day from 2020. In that case you might be better keeping the c1.0 -
Mazda 3 = efficient? Online figures suggest that it give the same MPG as my Mondeo estate.
Why wont a C1 do a 30 mile journey? I used top commute further than that in a 1000cc classic mini.Censorship Reigns Supreme in Troll City...0 -
As the C1 is a zero tax and the Mazda is about £145 that also needs to be taken into account.I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.0
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Mazda 3 diesel 2.2 is £20 a year VED and does about 50mpg average with mix of motorway and the odd shopping run. I get 70+ on motorways driving sensibly.
Depreciation is only an issue if you intent to sell the car, otherwise it's meaningless - if you bought a new or nearly new one and ran it for 10+ years then the fact it's worth 2-3 grand at the end is irrelevant as you had good use out of it. If you intend to sell after 3 years then it is a serious issue so get a nearly new or one that was registered but not sold etc to avoid the drop in the value from owning new.Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness:
People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.
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As Above +1. Motoring websites bang on about depreciation all the time and include it in costs. Sounds sensible but is only really relevant if you are changing your car every 3 - 5 years. I wonder whether they are pitching for ads from car companies...hmmm0
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If you dont like the C1 then either hand it back (if you have paid 50% of the total purchase price) or take out a loan, clear the PCP and sell on the open market - for more than We Buy Cars undervalue and buy a car you want.
I would buy a car for £5000-£6000 using a bank loan. I dont think you made a bad choice in buying the car unless you knew you would exceed the mileage when you took out the agreement.0 -
foxy-stoat wrote: »If you dont like the C1 then either hand it back (if you have paid 50% of the total purchase price) or take out a loan, clear the PCP and sell on the open market - for more than We Buy Cars undervalue and buy a car you want.
I would buy a car for £5000-£6000 using a bank loan. I dont think you made a bad choice in buying the car unless you knew you would exceed the mileage when you took out the agreement.
A clarification: once 50% of the total amount on the agreement has been paid.0 -
Thank you for all your help.
If I knew what I knew when I took out the agreement, I would have purchased a 2 year old c1 for 5k rather than a brand new one for 8k. The 120 pm with no deposit was very enticing.
Autotrader values a good private sale at 6.2k. almost the exact cost of what I paid to clear the finance . It would be great to sell it at that. To purchase a new one, I would like the money before hand but use it every day for work etc.
How do you guys go about avoiding the interim of selling and being car less?0 -
I suggested a Mazda 3 because they are affordable with good acceleration for the economy achieved. Not as good as a 320d but not as expensive either.
Not going into London. You're right, I could stick with the c1. It's more a comfort thing that anything. It feels like a boat at 65 mpg +.0 -
I'd hardly call a car like a Mazda 3 a motorway car. In my mind motorway cars are more Mondeo, Insignia, Mazda 6, BMW 5 series and the like, not a hatchback like an Astra, Mazda 3, Focus.Mercdriver wrote: »As Above +1. Motoring websites bang on about depreciation all the time and include it in costs. Sounds sensible but is only really relevant if you are changing your car every 3 - 5 years.
No, it is always relevant unless you're practising bangernomics where the car has already hit the bottom value other than scrap.This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0
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