Shared parental leave.

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My partner and I have just done exactly this and my friend her partner are doing the same next month. We all work for different employers.

JIL

unforeseen wrote: »

Could well be how the employer interprets 'return to work'

You return to work at the end of annual leave by attending work. Why should other types of leave be interpreted differently.

Similar happens with annual leave after sick leave. Lots of companies insist that you have to return to work I. E. attend work, even if only for one day, at the end of sick leave to terminate that type of leave before taking annual leave otherwise you are considered to still be on sick leave. There was a recent thread with this situation.

No,to end sick leave you can use a doctor's certificate to say you are fit for work. You can then take holiday or annual leave. You do not physically have to turn up for work. Why would the employer insist someone was still on sick leave if they had flown to the Costa del sol for two weeks following a period of sickness?

A few years ago I had my gall bladder removed, I was given a two week med cert. This coincided with some pre booked annual leave.
After a week I felt absolutely fine, I went away to a caravan for a few days. Before I went I phoned work to tell work I was ending my sick leave and would start my annual leave as previously planned.

sheramber

It must depend on the employer.

My father was off work after a heart attack.

He was due to go back to work during the summer break. However, if he didn't return to work before the school broke up for the holidays he could not come off sick leave until the first day the school resumed. In that case he would have gone on to half pay due to the length of time he had been off sick.

HIs doctor agreed to sign him off before the end of term on condition he only did very light duties.

unforeseen

JIL wrote: »

You do not physically have to turn up for work. Why would the employer insist someone was still on sick leave if they had flown to the Costa del sol for two weeks following a period of sickness?

As I said, some employers insist on a physical return to work after sick leave before you start annual leave.

buildersdaughter

This organisation is quite useful:

https://www.workingfamilies.org.uk/

fibonarchie

sheramber wrote: »

It must depend on the employer.

My father was off work after a heart attack.

He was due to go back to work during the summer break. However, if he didn't return to work before the school broke up for the holidays he could not come off sick leave until the first day the school resumed. In that case he would have gone on to half pay due to the length of time he had been off sick.

HIs doctor agreed to sign him off before the end of term on condition he only did very light duties.

So someone who's had a heart attack is treated less well and has fewer legal protections than someone who's chosen to get pregnant and have months off work. Interesting...

JIL

sheramber wrote: »

It must depend on the employer.

My father was off work after a heart attack.

He was due to go back to work during the summer break. However, if he didn't return to work before the school broke up for the holidays he could not come off sick leave until the first day the school resumed. In that case he would have gone on to half pay due to the length of time he had been off sick.

HIs doctor agreed to sign him off before the end of term on condition he only did very light duties.

Could this be something to do with his working contract? He may work say 40 weeks out of 52, with his pay averaged over the full 52 weeks? So in effect he would not be contracted to be at work over the school holidays, thus his first "paid" day back at work would be at the start of the September term.

JIL

unforeseen wrote: »

As I said, some employers insist on a physical return to work after sick leave before you start annual leave.

Those employers should check that they are not in breach of working time regulations.
You are now able to take annual leave in the middle of sick leave, how would that work if the employer insists on a physical return to work, before annual leave is started?

violettasomerset

We split the parental leave with my husband taking the second half. When my maternity leave ended and I "went back" to work, I immediately took a week of annual leave so that we could have an overlapping week off, i.e. I was back in the office one week after my maternity leave ended. It wasn't a problem at all legally or generally with my manager as I'd informed them prior to having the baby of my plans, and they knew I'd have a lot of extra annual leave to use up.

Kynthia

unforeseen wrote: »

Could well be how the employer interprets 'return to work'

You return to work at the end of annual leave by attending work. Why should other types of leave be interpreted differently.

Similar happens with annual leave after sick leave. Lots of companies insist that you have to return to work I. E. attend work, even if only for one day, at the end of sick leave to terminate that type of leave before taking annual leave otherwise you are considered to still be on sick leave. There was a recent thread with this situation.

No there's no interpretation. Both HR and payroll consider you no longer on maternity leave and returned to work whether you are on annual leave or not. It makes no difference to your official status whether your in your chair, on annual leave, or it's your non-working day. Even off sick would still no longer be maternity leave and therefore 'returned to work'.